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Mystic Software => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aminaga on January 31, 2005, 02:52:02 PM
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The good news is...I now have my own site called
ultimatecreations.mysticsoftware.net!!
Bad news is...I don't know where to log in as my account where
I can edit my site! So can anyone tell me where I do this?
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You edit it on your computer then FTP it into your account, to FTP open up internet explorer, then type <a href='ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net/' target='_blank'>ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net/</a> as the URL, use your account login information to copy+paste your files to your site.
The account info should look like this
Username: yourname@mysticsoftware.net
Password: ***********
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Well, I already have the login info Spyder gave me,
I just need to know where to log in.
So if I should use IE, then already then...
EDIT: Oh my god! I signed in under my account, and
I was just so confused where to go!
Who here knows what to do if your a beginner?
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Use <a href='http://www.internet-soft.com/ftpcomm.htm' target='_blank'>FTP Commander</a>.
Much easier than IE. It's what I use. Just plain old click n' drag.
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Is it like a whole other internet browser?
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Okay, you need to open up Internet explorer. Go to <a href='ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net/' target='_blank'>ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net/</a> and then click files, then log in. The type in your info. And then make a web page on Microsoft Front Page, or something to that effect, and then save it as index.html and click and drag it onto your site.
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Is it like a whole other internet browser?
No, its an FTP client.
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No, its an FTP client.
Good, I'll look into it...
And Dude Man, I didn't get squat of what you just said!
(Topic moved to MS-General Disscussion because we need more replies badly!)
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All you need is Internet Explorer, don't confuse yourself with other third party programs. Just do what dudeman said, just go to <a href='ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net' target='_blank'>ftp://www.mysticsoftware.net</a> in Internet Explorer. Click on File -> Login As, and enter your info that Spyder gave you. Simple as that.
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Ohhh, sorry. I'll tell you where I am.
I logged in, made a folder, and have a MS Word document I'm ready to post!
And I can select Paste. can you tell me why?
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You can just click and drag it in there.
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Well, the thing is, before I try out that FTP client thingy, I wan't to see
if I can do it without it, and I just might be able too...
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I mean in IE. Razz
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Well, if you really can, tell me, Number 8.
How is that possible in Internet Explorer?
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It works exactly like Windows Explorer...just drag the files from a folder in your computer, and drop them into the IE window after you've logged in. The files will upload to your account. Word documents are not HTML documents unless you specifically save them as such, and even then, I'd highly recommend that you use something else that is specifically tailored to making web pages. MS Word is not a good program for that.
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Word documents are not HTML documents unless you specifically save them as such.
Yikes! Well, I might as well now!
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I bet you were expecting a geocities building tool
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Yeah, I was really. And this is WAY more complicated!
It looks like I may have no choice but to use that thingy Number 8 sent me...
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For what it's worth, Firefox has a nifty FTP client you can install as an extension... FireFTP (like that wasn't obvious...). Open it up in a new tab, login, and go to town! Very Happy It's a tad buggy at times, but that's the only thing I use for uploading changes to my site. Smile
....
Reminds me, I need to find a better HTML editor, as Notepad is a bit rough to use for a newbie like me. Razz
Mike
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Wow, thanks khaldore! I wasn't aware of such a plugin, but it makes sense there would be one to compete with IE. I'll have to try it out.
As for not having a Geocities style page editor, I'd like to point to the hosting.php page on Mystic Software, that states the following...
If you apply for web hosting, you will be required to use FTP (File Transfer Protocol) to upload your files from your computer to your website. Mystic Software does not have any web based uploading method, or web based HTML editors. For more information about FTP, see below.
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Which I bet he didn't read, which doesn't surprise me one bit
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I had the same problom the first time I tried the MS hosting, but now I learned stuff, and it made me smart, in the head!
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For future reference, always present bad news first.
Nobody likes to be disappointed at the end. Razz
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I used Notepad for my pages, but it probably shows.
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YES! Finally, I did it! Sure I need to work on some images there, but for
now, this will have to do!
Special Thanks to Dude Man and Quoaz for helping me make a Web Page at MS Word. Thanks guys!
And big thanks to everybody else who is going to visit my site.
Admins: Can you please replace the forum at MS-Hosted with the one at Other RPG Toolkit Sites, and also please move this topic back to my own forum at ORPGTS?
Thanks!
Enjoy!
EDIT: Some images might not be used sadly...
<a href='http://ultimatecreations.mysticsoftware.net' target='_blank'>http://ultimatecreations.mysticsoftware.net</a>
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A tip: For some reason you have to select index from a number of files to see the site. If you wish people to see your site rather than the contents of your folder, try renaming Index.htm index.htm. I am not sure, but I think it is case sensitive. (Spyder, it is a Linux server, right? Linux is usually case sensitive in my limited experience).
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Thanks, and Haraldur, if you're an admin, why don't you move the topic?
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I suggest you go <a href='http://www.w3schools.com/' target='_blank'>here</a> (<a href='http://www.w3schools.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.w3schools.com/</a>)
And learn HTML and CSS, you'll be way better off if you do. Then you'll be able to make webpages in notepad, as well as have bragging rights. It's very easy (IMHO) to learn them, since it's just text, it's not even like programming.
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Dude, I already know how to make Web Pages in Note Pad now.
I'm only having trouble adding veiwable images on to the site...
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You set up your folder hierarchy, put everything in it, check your img tags to see if the src is right (use the full address ["http://..."] unless you set up a base tag soyou can write relative addresses["../img/image.ext"]). if you make sure that stuff is right you shouldn't have a lot of problems.
for viewable inages, if you want to have viewable images you have to set up links to them, if you want to can use thumbnails.
this is a basic rundown (correct me if im wrong):
<a href="http://www.site.com/dir/image.ext"><img src="http://www.site.com/dir/image.ext" width="60px" height="100px"></a>
/*sets up a link to an image, the link appearing as a smaller version of the picture (thumbnail)*/
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Dude, I already know how to make Web Pages in Note Pad now.
I'm only having trouble adding veiwable images on to the site...
You're obviously lying... You're generating your code in Word, hence you have kilobytes of uneccessary data on your site that will:
1) cause it to load much more slowly
2) break things (like images)
3) produce poor quality web pages...
Don't try to lie to me, I've know HTML fluently for 8 years now, and the code on your page simply shows that you don't know it.
(Sample)
<link rel=File-List href="./Index_files/filelist.xml">
<link rel=Edit-Time-Data href="./Index_files/editdata.mso">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<title> </title>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:DocumentProperties>
<o:Author> </o:Author>
<o:Template>Normal</o:Template>
<o:LastAuthor> </o:LastAuthor>
<o:Revision>3</o:Revision>
<o:TotalTime>3</o:TotalTime>
<o:Created>2005-02-03T21:29:00Z</o:Created>
<o:LastSaved>2005-02-03T23:31:00Z</o:LastSaved>
<o:Pages>2</o:Pages>
<o:Words>725</o:Words>
<o:Characters>4138</o:Characters>
<o:Company> </o:Company>
<o:Lines>34</o:Lines>
<o:Paragraphs>8</o:Paragraphs>
<o:CharactersWithSpaces>5081</o:CharactersWithSpaces>
<o:Version>9.2720</o:Version>
</o:DocumentProperties>
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<w:WordDocument>
<w:PunctuationKerning/>
</w:WordDocument>
</xml><![endif]-->
Your images are broken because your image tags are all wrong, they point to a folder called Image_files, and you just copied all your images to the main directory instead of copying the folder.
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Hey DMM,
If you need something that works better than word...
Try <a href='http://www.w3.org/Amaya' target='_blank'>this</a>. It won the pricelessware.org award for best WYSIWYG web designer. You don't need HTML knowledge to make a page with it, but if you have some you can use it.
I don't use it, I use Frontpage, but of course, Frontpage is not free.
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Number Eight: No thanks. So far I like doing it the way it is...
matt72186: Look, if you aren't giving me solutions that don't involve
switching from MS Word, don't give me solutions at all!
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Hey I'm just trying to give you suggestions that would improve your website, and possibly make it work, besides I told you the problem with the images all you gotta do is fix it. If you're going to be a stubborn brat and completely ignore my solutions then go on, but if you want to fix your site I suggest you listen to me!
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Okay, okay. The truth is, I'm refusing because I'm accually not that
good with such advanced coding...
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HTML is actually not that advanced. If you go to that website matt72186 recommended you could probably learn it in an hour or so (at least the basics).
It's quite simple.
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Yeah, HTML is extremely simple. After you learn the basic tags like <a href, <img src, <i>, <b>, and <u>, etc, just about everything else starts to make sense. I still do things like tables using an editor like Macromedia Dreamweaver, rather than handcode them, just because I find it easier, but Matt's right, you shouldn't use Word for HTML. It adds tons of useless crap to your page that you can't see unless you look at the source code, but it makes your files ten times larger than they need to be.
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Everyone has there opinions. Sure, they'll be some crap that I don't need,
but I don't care! Someday, amybe I'll take you're advice, but for now, I already started with MS Word, and for now, it'll be like this!
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HTML is really easy, even I managed it. Notepad is your friend!
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I LOVE NOTEPAD!!!!
Is Notepad the same thing as MS Word, or is it more advanced?
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Notepad is a lot less advanced than Word, and a lot more simple. It's about as complex as the textarea you see for fast reply. It's meant just to write simple text, which is all that's needed to code HTML.
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Oh, and Matt, I wanted to ask you if I can convert pages I made
into the HTML program thingy?
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I LOVE NOTEPAD!!!!
Is Notepad the same thing as MS Word, or is it more advanced?
*slaps own forehead in frustration*
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Just asking a simple question. Wink
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Because I'm feeling nice, I spent 10 minutes making your page. It's up to you if you want to use this authentic "Matthew Lucas" site or not, but I'll tell ya, it's a lot better than what you already got (Faster/Works).
Hold the Windows Key and hit "R"
Type "notepad" hit Enter
Then copy+paste the code below into the text
Save as "index.html" in your site's folder (make sure it's a lowercase 'i')
Upload it to your site using Internet Explorer
For maximum effectiveness I suggest you study the code, I kept it fairly simple, hopefully you can learn something from this.
<html>
<head>
<title>Ultimate Creations Inc.</title>
<style type="text/css">
/*
Ultimate Creations Inc. Style
Name: UC Style
Author: Matthew Lucas
Last Revised: 9 February 2005
*/
body {
background-color: #000;
color: #0F0;
font-size: medium;
}
a {
font-weight: bold;
}
h1 {
color: #FF0;
text-align: center;
}
/*
Layers
*/
div#navigation {
position: absolute;
top: 3em;
left: 1em;
width: 8em;
line-height: 2.5em;
}
div#main {
position: absolute;
top: 0em;
right: 5em;
left: 10em;
}
div#footer {
font-size: small;
text-align: center;
}
/*
Inline Elements
*/
div.profileImage {
float: left;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="navigation">
<a href="index.html">Home</a><br />
<a href="games.html">Games</a><br />
<a href="links.html">Links</a><br />
</div>
<div id="main">
<h1>Ultimate Creations Inc.</h1>
Welcome to the official site of Ultimate Creations Inc!
Here is the newest version of the website where you can
get the latest updates related to the games and stories
created by Ultimate Creations Inc.<br />
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to
post at the forums at Mystic Software.<br />
<br />
Have Fun!<br />
<hr />
<h2>Latest Updates:</h2>
02/06/05<br />
<small>Posted by dreammakermaster</small>
Two new sections of the website, ?Games? and ?Links?,
have been added to the FTP Server. So far, being hosted
by Mystic Software seems cooler, and more fun then
Yahoo! GeoCites. I?m looking forward to adding more in
the future?<br />
<hr />
<h2>Current Site Administrators</h2>
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image004.htm.jpg" alt="dreammakermaster" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> dreammakermaster<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Anthony<br />
<b>Age:</b> 14<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Overlord Administrator<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
Obviously RPG Toolkit<br />
Final Fantasy Series<br />
Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game<br />
Eminem Music<br />
New England Patriots<br />
Typing Stories (formerly)<br />
MSN Messenger<br />
<hr />
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image006.htm.jpg" alt="Vladamir" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> Vladamir<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Evan<br />
<b>Age:</b> 14<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Second in Command<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
Obviously RPG Toolkit<br />
Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game<br />
Eminem Music<br />
New England Patriots<br />
Other Sports<br />
<hr />
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image008.htm.jpg" alt="The Man from Everywhere!" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> The Man from Everywhere!<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Jay<br />
<b>Age:</b> Unknown<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Third In Command<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
SODA!!!!!!!!!!1111<br />
<hr />
<div id="footer">
This site is kindly hosted by <a href="http://www.mysticsoftware.net" target="_blank">Mystic Software</a><br />
Site design by <a href="http://www.enter-key.net">Matthew Lucas</a> Copyright 2005<br />
Ultimate Creations Inc. Copyright 2005
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
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Bottom line is Word is not meant for web-pages, and to be frank you get what you deserve from it - shitty web sites.
You don't have to use notepad just to suit your nerd ego, there are some fine WYSIWYG editors out there plus some glorified text editors such as CrimsonEditor, which I use, which has better interface and tools such as colouring.
But really, Word isn't for web-pages...irrespective of what its PR tells you.
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Because I'm feeling nice, I spent 10 minutes making your page. It's up to you if you want to use this authentic "Matthew Lucas" site or not, but I'll tell ya, it's a lot better than what you already got (Faster/Works).
Hold the Windows Key and hit "R"
Type "notepad" hit Enter
Then copy+paste the code below into the text
Save as "index.html" in your site's folder (make sure it's a lowercase 'i')
Upload it to your site using Internet Explorer
For maximum effectiveness I suggest you study the code, I kept it fairly simple, hopefully you can learn something from this.
<html>
<head>
<title>Ultimate Creations Inc.</title>
<style type="text/css">
/*
Ultimate Creations Inc. Style
Name: UC Style
Author: Matthew Lucas
Last Revised: 9 February 2005
*/
body {
background-color: #000;
color: #0F0;
font-size: medium;
}
a {
font-weight: bold;
}
h1 {
color: #FF0;
text-align: center;
}
/*
Layers
*/
div#navigation {
position: absolute;
top: 3em;
left: 1em;
width: 8em;
line-height: 2.5em;
}
div#main {
position: absolute;
top: 0em;
right: 5em;
left: 10em;
}
div#footer {
font-size: small;
text-align: center;
}
/*
Inline Elements
*/
div.profileImage {
float: left;
}
</style>
</head>
<body>
<div id="navigation">
<a href="index.html">Home</a><br />
<a href="games.html">Games</a><br />
<a href="links.html">Links</a><br />
</div>
<div id="main">
<h1>Ultimate Creations Inc.</h1>
Welcome to the official site of Ultimate Creations Inc!
Here is the newest version of the website where you can
get the latest updates related to the games and stories
created by Ultimate Creations Inc.<br />
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to
post at the forums at Mystic Software.<br />
<br />
Have Fun!<br />
<hr />
<h2>Latest Updates:</h2>
02/06/05<br />
<small>Posted by dreammakermaster</small>
Two new sections of the website, ?Games? and ?Links?,
have been added to the FTP Server. So far, being hosted
by Mystic Software seems cooler, and more fun then
Yahoo! GeoCites. I?m looking forward to adding more in
the future?<br />
<hr />
<h2>Current Site Administrators</h2>
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image004.htm.jpg" alt="dreammakermaster" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> dreammakermaster<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Anthony<br />
<b>Age:</b> 14<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Overlord Administrator<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
Obviously RPG Toolkit<br />
Final Fantasy Series<br />
Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game<br />
Eminem Music<br />
New England Patriots<br />
Typing Stories (formerly)<br />
MSN Messenger<br />
<hr />
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image006.htm.jpg" alt="Vladamir" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> Vladamir<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Evan<br />
<b>Age:</b> 14<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Second in Command<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
Obviously RPG Toolkit<br />
Yu-Gi-Oh! Trading Card Game<br />
Eminem Music<br />
New England Patriots<br />
Other Sports<br />
<hr />
<div class="profileImage"><img src="image008.htm.jpg" alt="The Man from Everywhere!" /></div>
<b>Name:</b> The Man from Everywhere!<br />
<b>Real Name:</b> Jay<br />
<b>Age:</b> Unknown<br />
<b>Rank:</b> Third In Command<br />
<b>Interests:</b><br />
SODA!!!!!!!!!!1111<br />
<hr />
<div id="footer">
This site is kindly hosted by <a href="http://www.mysticsoftware.net" target="_blank">Mystic Software</a><br />
Site design by <a href="http://www.enter-key.net">Matthew Lucas</a> Copyright 2005<br />
Ultimate Creations Inc. Copyright 2005
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
No thanks. What I wan't to do is find a way to do it myself...
Xavier: We'll see, rival of MS! Razz
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Xavier: We'll see, rival of MS! Razz
You seem to have rival mixed up with "Official RPG Toolkit site, of which Mystic Software is a resource site for."
Wink
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Anyways, that's not the point, Vampz Guy.
The point is, for now, my site shall be like this, and maybe later, I use something different to make it with.
And in the end, it will be TEH BOMB!!!!11one
Also, I thought I should you now that your here that I like the new games section at TKZ. But MS will always be better! Razz
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get a grip man, their only trying to help. get an account with freewebs they have an online editor. if you don't like their service, save the documents onto your HDD and upload them where you like.
Also there are thousands of web page tuts, both online and otherwise. Foget word, period.
you know what, you want me to make one with you? ill gladly help out.
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you know what, you want me to make one with you? ill gladly help out.
I already did, but he declined. Anyway I didn't make it just for you to copy, but you should see how it works. All of it is plain english, so as long as your half-decent at recognizing words you should be able to see somewhat how that page works. I stilll suggest you save that page just to your computer so you can see how it looks.
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Look, for now, I'll use Word, and later, when I'm more experienced, I'll use something else. End of story!
Now someone please lock this topic!
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You want to use word because it would be easy? At least with notepad it is just code, no strangeness. Or use Dreamweaver.
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Maybe I'll use Notepad in the future, but for now, I'm using MS Word!
Now Haraldur, lock this topic!
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MS Word is easy? Dreamweaver is easy. MS Frontpage is easy. Word is a pain in the ass with which average looking websites are near impossible.
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Xavier: Just stop already! You're mean.
Haraldur: Please lock this topic!!!!!!!!1111
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How is Vampzy being mean?
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I guess if we tell him Santa isn't real we'll be doubly mean? Razz
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Santa Claus is a <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>BIG FAKE!!!!!!!11</span>
Duh! Razz
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Don't tell an administrator what to do. We run this site, not you! If you continue with this immature behavior DMM we may even ban YOU!
If you don't want this topic to continue stop replying to everyone, simply ignore it. You're the one making this topic persist.
You asked for help, you got an answer, now it's up to you to take EVERYONE'S suggestions, or simply ignore us. If you don't want help then don't ask for it.
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Eeek! Fine, I will...