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Miscellaneous => General Off-Topic => Topic started by: Mark of the Dragon on June 25, 2005, 08:33:58 AM

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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 25, 2005, 08:33:58 AM
Ok, I know that nobody here on MS really bashes it, but I'm pretty sure there are some on ToolkitZone that have done their fair share.

I ask you, my fellow TKers, is RPG Maker really so bad? I had plenty of time to use it, and I actually like it.

Post your complaints about RPGMaker XP here. And if anyone says graphics resolution, that's not really an excuse, especially since many TKers use ripped graphics or poorly made custom graphics anyways.



My only list of complaints:
Layering is only done for graphics purposes; you can't transfer a character between layers.

The scripting language, while VERY easy to learn, can get a bit tedious at times.

MIDIs sound different through RPG Maker XPs sound system.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 25, 2005, 08:41:20 AM
Well, I don't remember having RPG MakerXP on my computer, but before I got the TK, I remember (don't tell anyone.) having RPG Maker 2000 on my computer, but then, I discovered the TK, and discovered it's 10 times as good as RPG Maker. RPG Maker isn't bad in my opinion. The TK is just better.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 25, 2005, 10:16:14 AM
No worries there; I used RM2k before, too. I liked it somewhat as well. 2003, however, was too buggy for my taste.
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Post by: Firestorm2005 on June 25, 2005, 10:45:58 AM
I have RM2k.  I don't use it anymore, but I took it off of a disc somebody at my school gave to me.  He meant to give me a demo of his game, but he gave me the wrong disc.

I still haven't given it back...


Small review:
+ Characters came with premade walking things ( Very Happy )
+ Could run music through it easily
- Same complaint as MotD about the scripting language.
- I never did get the thing to run my game...
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Post by: Tosoto on June 25, 2005, 02:53:35 PM
Everyone knows my stance on this issue
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 25, 2005, 03:20:35 PM
Yup. To you, RM2k is god.
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Post by: Kahn on June 25, 2005, 06:50:35 PM
It's ok.

I don't think it's a very well made program, but it helps me with my Toolkit projects so I can't complain.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 25, 2005, 06:59:39 PM
Exacly how does it help with your TK projects though?
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 25, 2005, 07:45:07 PM
He probably uses it to get ideas for map design.
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Post by: Dude Man on June 25, 2005, 07:48:29 PM
I cannot state an opinion on this topic, for I have never used RPG Maker.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 25, 2005, 08:06:25 PM
<a href='http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/rm2k.htm' target='_blank'>http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/rm2k.htm</a>
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Post by: Dude Man on June 25, 2005, 11:40:47 PM
Hmmm, maybe I'll try it out..
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 26, 2005, 12:04:47 AM
Try out RPG Maker XP, actually. It's much better.
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Post by: Dude Man on June 26, 2005, 12:21:10 AM
Piece of shit dosen't even work. I'm not even going to bother sorry, it honestly dosen't seem to be worth my time at all. <_<
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Post by: Tosoto on June 26, 2005, 01:35:57 AM
If you can't get it to work you are obviously not trying.

You could just say you don't want to
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 26, 2005, 09:52:15 AM
Dude Man, the program is divided into the database and the map/event editor. If your problem is that you cant select a board and a tile for the player to start on, open up the map in the map editor, change it to event mode (the cube icon), and right click the tile and select "Party Start Position."

The Database is the fun part, though Very Happy
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Post by: Dude Man on June 27, 2005, 09:38:46 AM
No, the problom is, is that I go to open the program, and I get an error message.

(http://http://dmdgames.mysticsoftware.net/RM2K.jpg)

So currently my answer to MotD's question is yes.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 27, 2005, 09:59:07 AM
Ah. You don't have the RTP. You need the RTP in order to run the program.

Here's a link:

<a href='http://rpgmaker.thaiware.com/download/RTP2000.exe' target='_blank'>http://rpgmaker.thaiware.com/download/RTP2000.exe</a>

Make sure you install it in the same directory as RM2k.
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Post by: Kahn on June 27, 2005, 10:43:25 AM
Quote from: "Aminaga"
Exacly how does it help with your TK projects though?


I basicly use it to quickly set up maps and cutscenes to make sure they look good before I attempt them in the Toolkit.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 27, 2005, 11:30:36 AM
Oh, I know what you mean...
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 27, 2005, 01:29:05 PM
See, I'm making games in both the TK and in RMXP. The XP project is going ok; just having troubles finding something other than the world map to use since XP doesnt have vehicle support or the appropriate tiles built in for world maps. And there aren't many XP chipset resources yet.

As for the TK project, I'm still in the planning stages, and I'm gathering a crew around my neighborhood and the martial arts school (you'd be surprised how many people are interested in doing music or graphics.) I even have one guy BEGGING to come up with special moves for me.

The XP project is a solo project, of course. I'll take volunteers for my TK project, though.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 27, 2005, 01:42:10 PM
Heh. I never tried out RPG Maker XP. Perhaps I should some time...
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Post by: Dude Man on June 27, 2005, 02:20:19 PM
Allright, I downloaded the thingy you gave me, MotD. And well RPG Maker is excellent. Yet! I don't find it better then the Toolkit, yet I don't find it to much worse.

So no, RPG Maker isn't that bad.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 27, 2005, 02:27:45 PM
k I downloaded RMXP. Just getting used to it, but I think I have an idea for what I'll make with it. I just might not be able to put it on my site, enless I switch hosts, since Spyder probably won't let me upload an RPG Maker game.  <_<
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Post by: Number Eight on June 27, 2005, 03:30:14 PM
Eh, I'm debating whether or not to try rm2k again. It is pirated software after all, and if I release a game made with it, it's sure to get tons of critism because of that fact...
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Post by: Aminaga on June 27, 2005, 03:57:55 PM
I believe if you have the legal Japanese version, I suppose it wouldn't be piraed. However, it is Japanese.  -_-
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Post by: Number Eight on June 27, 2005, 04:13:14 PM
I would have to learn Japanese and pay for RM2K. -_-
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Post by: Aminaga on June 27, 2005, 05:39:04 PM
There is also a free version. I have it, and I'm getting good at it, yet I have no knowledge of Japenese! Very Happy
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Post by: Tosoto on June 27, 2005, 07:08:17 PM
If you're looking for a good game made in RPG Maker, then you should play The Legend of the Philosopher's Stone.

<a href='http://www.gamingw.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21534' target='_blank'>http://www.gamingw.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21534</a>

It's made in Rpg Maker 2003 so you'd probably need to install the RTP for that version too
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 27, 2005, 07:42:08 PM
If I remember correctly, Tosoto, you told me to stay away from RM2k3 Razz
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Post by: Tosoto on June 27, 2005, 09:17:58 PM
You remember wrong
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 27, 2005, 10:32:42 PM
Well...if not you...then who was it? Someone pointed out some errors in 2k3 and told me to take it off, and I didn't listen until I faced allt he probs. myself.
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Post by: Aminaga on June 28, 2005, 06:08:08 AM
Holy crap! Tosoto's right! That game does look good!
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on June 30, 2005, 09:43:29 PM
I decided to drop RMXP because of its lack of world map support, and im downgrading to 2003 because the Side-View is still cool.