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Mystic Software => General Discussion => Topic started by: William on June 30, 2005, 03:37:58 PM
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It's good to see that Mysticsoftware is still here :blush:
I just wanted to say Hi to all of you Very Happy
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*cough* Yep, we're still here, striking at TKZ as usual down here in MS. =p
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Toolkit Army = Good
Toolkit Zone = Bad! Wink
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T3h c0rr3ct! Wink
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Now, now, how can the official TK site be bad? Poor CBM must be so hurt with all these jibes.
Razz
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Poor ghost of CBM. He must be pissed at all this spam.
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Well.. It's always good to have different communitys for the same things :blush:
off-topic: I love the smiles :huh:
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Stop using them, try to grow up a little and use THE BIG BOY SMILIES
>:D
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What exactly would you be referring to, Tosoto?
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What's so bad about TKZ? I love TKZ.
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What exactly would you be referring to, Tosoto?
He means using stuff like:
Smile , Very Happy , Sad , >_< , <_<;; , >_> , ^_^ , e_e, 0_o, -_0, and X_X
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Ah. I see. -_0
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lol I agree. ^ _^
What's so bad about TKZ? I love TKZ.
*Walks away from Inumattsha/Trigunasha.
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seriously, what's so bad about it? it's a fun community....
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TKZ r0x0rs my b0x0rs!
OI! Without it, MS wouldn't be here so bow down to your leader.
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Never! Razz
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I don't have much of a problem with the site itself, but htere are too many n00bz on the forums, so yeah...
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Yeah MotD! TKZ folks are n00bs! Razz j/k
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I agree with MotD; there are a lot of newbies on the TKZ. The reason why is probably cause it's the home of the RPGTK and people new to the TK have a whole lotta problems. Most of the n00bs are usually in the help forums.
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Oh yeah, I nearly went mad looking in the help fourms.
Howr doi yuo mak a mingame??/
Hwo cna yuo make it so you can go inside buildings?
How cna I make a gam like mortla kombat?
Sheesh...
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Why do n00Bz speak in unorganized babble?
Razz
Because they don't know any better. :rolleyes:
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Wait a second, Number 8, you aren't even against TKZ. Razz
Oh yeah, I nearly went mad looking in the help fourms.
Howr doi yuo mak a mingame??/
Hwo cna yuo make it so you can go inside buildings?
How cna I make a gam like mortla kombat?
Laughing I should check that out sometime!
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Sometimes I just want to bash their faces in...
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Wait a second, Number 8, you aren't even against TKZ. Razz
Well I'm certainly not for it. Very Happy
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Sometimes I just want to bash their faces in...
...shit.
Well I'm certainly not for it.
Good. Have a cookie!
Dude Man Quotes TM
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Wait a second, Number 8, you aren't even against TKZ. Razz
Laughing I should check that out sometime!
I usually stay outta there if I can....
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Welcome back Triguna..inumattsha... :huh: confusticatin'
Yeah welcome back!!!
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Welcome back Triguna..inumattsha... :huh: confusticatin'
Yeah welcome back!!!
I remember you! Yeah, you said you would do some tiles for me for a really old game that got trashed!
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OI! Without it, MS wouldn't be here so bow down to your leader.
I'd beg to differ. TKZ has nothing to do with MS' existence.
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MS probably has a lot more to do with TKZs existance than the other way around...
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Wait a second. I heard that MS came before TKZ. How could TKZ have to do with MS' existence? Or, am I worng, and TKZ came first? I'm confused. :wacko:
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Matt just said MS probably has a lot more to do with TKZs existance than the other way around.
And MS has been around quite awile longer then TKZ.
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Oops. Sorry. Razz
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I have not been on the TKZ forum and i dont think i want to
I would get eaten alive over there and ms is better because it has less people and has less knoobeis than TKZ
"som1 tel me how 2 mak a mini gam plz plz plz"
but the OT anything goes there, if you dont flame the heck out of people they flame you and the only way to survive is comical pictures and variations of OWNED! eg. PWND, disOWNED, cOWNED, telephOWNED and my favorite, birthstOWNED! Razz
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That's not true at all, TKZ doesn't even have an OT forum. But there are some jackasses, mostly non-TK users who stick around for nothing but forums. The Toolkit is popular, it gets lots of new users, get over it. Most of the newer members who stick around make good games as opposed to do nothing but post like the majority of members.
And yes, MS came first about three months before TKZ in 2000 (or late 1999). TKZ was around for about 18 months then I closed it down, then re-emerged in December 2003. MS was a great inspiration in making TKZ when Triuken was effectively running it (he eventually came to TKZ), unfortunately MS has gone a bit stale over the years although with TKZ being the big daddy now it did force MS to overhaul the site with PHP and whatnot, making it much better.
Mind you, I still hate MS for giving us Penguin (aka Cesque). Razz
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Yes, that's a good point Vampz. And MS dose have some people who are just here because of the fourms, yet those people aren't really jack asses. Yet some people who do make games tend to be jackasses, most of them are noobs, and they only hate people because they don't worship there games *cough*vlademir*cough*.
However, I am with Dipshit on likeing MS because it has less people. It's better because you know everybody and such. I just like a fourm with not to many members but not to little.
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Vampz: Cesque's a penguin? I thought he was a guy that lives on a rock with his dog! Razz
Dude Man: Don't worry, DM. Vlad's going to get a consequense. Which will be if he dosen't stop flaming DM, he will be banned from the UCI administration, and also, I will show him the rule about flaming.
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Thank you so much, DMM. Seriously.
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Wait, who's DMM?
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Don't be stupid. <_<
You know who DMM is.
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Yeah seriously man. It's dumb. When MotD calls me Galaton I'm not like. "HUH WHOS GALATON LOL!!!"
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Seriously, who's DMM? Razz Translation: My new screen-name is Aminaga, not dreammakermaster.
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TKZ was around for about 18 months then I closed it down, then re-emerg....
*yawn*
just read the history on TKZ... Razz
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Seriously, who's DMM? Razz Translation: My new screen-name is Aminaga, not dreammakermaster.
DMM is shorter than Aminaga and everyone knows who we're talking about. There's no "short" version of Aminaga that we can use, so we go with DMM.
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Whatever you say, Vilox.
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Smile
I don't mind that name. I still use it sometimes.
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Heh. Okay, okay. I won't care if you call me DMM still, as long as eventually, it kinda fades out a little soon. Wink
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Okay sure thing DMM Razz .
Anyways. It seems that MS is gaining a small bit of more favor, since some people are leaveing TKZ now. Don't worry Vampz, if everyone leaves TKZ for MS, then perhaps me and the others with enochlophobia will go to TKZ. Wink
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People leave all the time throughout history, they leave the TK and sometimes the net hobby life. TKZ just happens to be the site. Activity is nevertheless constantly rising every month in terms of games, resources etc.
So good times for the TK...or those of us who use it Wink
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you guys (except Xavier) are full of CRAP
The community is a fun place to be where you can discuss all sorts of things with people who all share some of the same interests as you do. the tkz IS THE COMMUNITY,or at least its undisputable center.if you stay here all the time without ever going to the tkz at least once in a while, you are definetly NOT part of the community, since you are not taking part in defining the user culture which inevitably guides the tk's development and survival.
And whining about the tkz being full of noobs is bullshit.The site is not a noobish place, and complaining there are too many noobs is like complaining about the rainy weather. noobs are a natural occurance and nothing can stop them. but like the weather, they change their ways or continue on their way, either way each individual noob is only a problem for a day or two and a few of them stay as contributing members.
the overwhelming majority of tk users never visit these forums, and that is why i think it would help a lot if all but the game makers's boards and the one site admin board were removed.
Also, the game maker's boards would have direct links to the tkz and would show up as tk boards only with special icons and smaller text and minus the right hand board stats column.
Also more people use the tk than you realize.
and most people aim too high when making a game(like me) and never finish. but it doesnt mean they dont try to make tk games or suck at, because in reality they failed because they tried to hard to make up for lack of talent.
Even if they are not making games or using the tk on a regular basis, they are fun to talk to. if you made a freind while in some school club, would you stop being their freind just because they quit the club for an okay reason?
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Good point, good point. I'd agree with you more if you made it lool like a more peacfull agrument, you gave. (I agree with people better if they are in a better mood, don't question that)
Yet I do have something to say to this.
complaining there are too many noobs is like complaining about the rainy weather
Say, you hear a place, has bad weater all year round, wile the place you live has bright shiney days, almost all the time. Would you move to the place with bad weater? I wouldn't.
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The community would die without new users, the world would die without rain. But here's the thing, Dude Man, if you were to go to TKZ and post you would be the "noob". And that's where your outlook falls apart, you are the very thing at TKZ that you complain about.
Now, you'd protest claiming that you've been around longer, used the TK yada, yada, yada....but so have many of what you call "noobs". Don't you see the very reason we have problems is the shitty attitude towards new members that so called "older" members have? It's pathetic.
That is the kind of attitude I want out of the community and sadly most anti-"newbie" sentiments come from people like yourself who do nothing at all to help the Toolkit as a result. I'd almost describe such people as parasites, living off the Toolkit and killing the good things it brings.
The Toolkit was rubbish for a two year stretch with a tiny 30ish community, no new games and no new releases. Just look at how it has come along since we welcomed new users and promoted this environment. Notice how most of the recent leaders in game making and TK development are relative newbies...
Sigh.
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The community would die without new users, the world would die without rain. But here's the thing, Dude Man, if you were to go to TKZ and post you would be the "noob". And that's where your outlook falls apart, you are the very thing at TKZ that you complain about.
Now, you'd protest claiming that you've been around longer, used the TK yada, yada, yada....but so have many of what you call "noobs". Don't you see the very reason we have problems is the shitty attitude towards new members that so called "older" members have? It's pathetic.
That is the kind of attitude I want out of the community and sadly most anti-"newbie" sentiments come from people like yourself who do nothing at all to help the Toolkit as a result. I'd almost describe such people as parasites, living off the Toolkit and killing the good things it brings.
The Toolkit was rubbish for a two year stretch with a tiny 30ish community, no new games and no new releases. Just look at how it has come along since we welcomed new users and promoted this environment. Notice how most of the recent leaders in game making and TK development are relative newbies...
Sigh.
Heh for some reason I didn't get that when I joined TKZ , I'm special
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*Points to TK Army banner on profile.
Guys, the reason I hate TKZ is not because of the thousands of n00bs there. It it because of Vampz. (or Xavier as you guys call him. Razz) He is evil! Trying to take over the community! Back when CBM was ruler, (I was lurking in the shadows back then.) things were much more peaceful then they are nowadays. No wars, no arguing, just a much nicer, more orginized community. This is accually the reason I joined the army. To make the community seem more orginized. -_O
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The community would die without new users, the world would die without rain. But here's the thing, Dude Man, if you were to go to TKZ and post you would be the "noob". And that's where your outlook falls apart, you are the very thing at TKZ that you complain about.
Now, you'd protest claiming that you've been around longer, used the TK yada, yada, yada....but so have many of what you call "noobs". Don't you see the very reason we have problems is the shitty attitude towards new members that so called "older" members have? It's pathetic.
That is the kind of attitude I want out of the community and sadly most anti-"newbie" sentiments come from people like yourself who do nothing at all to help the Toolkit as a result. I'd almost describe such people as parasites, living off the Toolkit and killing the good things it brings.
The Toolkit was rubbish for a two year stretch with a tiny 30ish community, no new games and no new releases. Just look at how it has come along since we welcomed new users and promoted this environment. Notice how most of the recent leaders in game making and TK development are relative newbies...
Sigh.
I may, have a hacked up arm, a knife wound in leg, a tooth chiped and a spliting head ache from haveing a rock thrown at it, But THAT HURT.
But, I hate to admit it, your accually right. I've become exactly what I didn't want to, a nooby basher.
But your wrong about the parasite, with me, I work on games, and I help others with there's sometimes.
But the fact shall still remain is that you kill the threaded fourm. So hah! Laughing
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Hehe, well if a community could be succesful and grow with threaded forums then I'd have used them. But show me one, large, active and diverse community that uses threaded format.
Not even MS does Smile.
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I thought it was just a joke that people came here because they "hated" the TKZ, but some of you guys are serious... I mean, come on, it's just a website.
People spend too much time worrying about "newbies", "communities", and forums, and not enough time working on games.
Hehe, well if a community could be succesful and grow with threaded forums then I'd have used them. But show me one, large, active and diverse community that uses threaded format.
<a href='http://darkagegames.net/message.php' target='_blank'>Check back here</a> in a few years. (Heh...)
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OTR has alot of people aswell. Just not as much as other sites.
I just don't like PBHPB, or whatever the heck it's called. But I do like IBP, something about it, that seems more, wellcomeing. Yet it's barely even different from it at. It's odd the way my mind works, I don't even understand myself at times...
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Xorlak: Go Xorlak! You like threaded, which means you're on the good side of the TK!
Dude Man: Speaking of OTR, be sure to close your eyes at my latest post at the Number Game. You might be disgusted by it. Razz
Vampz: I used to have PHPBB as my forum, by I switched to server.com a while back. I'm accually switching to Invision eventually, but Invision isn't exactly the same as PHPBB! So, you're wrong! MS does not use phpbb! So hah!
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Read again, it said MS doesn't use threaded. As for Invision, it is good but it costs money ($75 or whatever) which is a high price to pay and although I have a license it would take days if not weeks to fully re-code TKZ to suit the new system. MS was lucky in that they got theirs when it was free (see the trial version at the bottom).
Threaded forums are great for small sites with a handful of new topics a week or maybe even a day, but no site which gets any decent amount of activity uses threaded. Whether it's PHPBB, IPB, YABB and the rest of them...it isn't threaded. It's easy to be organised with five people posting a day.
If TKZ used the old threaded system, every topic would be pushed off the frontpage within 6 hours and every popular topic would result in about 10 screen heights worth of post branching when browsing. It seems everyone, including most OTR people, know this...apart from some isolated people like you who think the whole thing is real.
But yes, TK Army blah blah blah, evil Vampz yada yada yada, phpbb boo hoo hoo...
...just wake me when you have something insightful to say. Wink
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My god, Vampz. You are evil...
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Haha. Good one Vampz. But yeah, that is accually a good point. Just, IPB is alot better. If you did have IPB, I'd post there more often for sure. But lately, I have been makeing more posts at TKZ then before.
And I have noticed that lately, that I haven't seen as many annoying knoughbies (newbies). I just hate the noobs, that ask dumb questions that are answered in the help files. Like "How can you make it so you can go inside buildings?" Like, come on, even you can admit that, that has to be a really stupid question.
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But lately, I have been makeing more posts at TKZ then before.
Wow. After all your support for OTR. I only go to TKZ just for the chat, manage my game profiles, and check my private messages for game related things. I only have like 3 of 4 accual posts on the forums.
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I only post on MS. I have not signed up for OTR yet, or TKZ. But soon I may
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Just wondering, has anyone here noticed how much Dippy's spelling is beginning to improve?
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Aminaga, your an idiot if you think the members of the TK Army actually hate the TKZ and think of Vampz as "evil". The majority of them post quite often at the TKZ forums. Yes, there were quite a few people pissed off about the switch to PHP back in the day, before you were even a part of the community, but Vampz is absolutely right, they suit larger communities far better than threaded. The entire TK Army concept was created, and exists, as a joke; nothing more. Just because you have a special logo in your signature doesn't make you any more special than anyone else in either community.
if you stay here all the time without ever going to the tkz at least once in a while, you are definetly NOT part of the community, since you are not taking part in defining the user culture which inevitably guides the tk's development and survival.
I fail to see how a good portion of the TK community guides the TK's development or survival. This website and it's users are just as much a part of the TK community as any other part. MS hosts a good deal of resources, games, and websites that help make up the TK community, including the homes of some of the most critically acclaimed TK games ever created.overwhelming majority of tk users never visit these forums
Just as an overwhelming majority did not visit TKZ's forums before it became the official website as well. Rpgtoolkit.com was far less "advanced" as Mystic Software. The only reason it got as much traffic as it did was because it was the original, and the official website. Becoming the official site is overwhelmingly the reason why TKZ is as large as it is today. I'm willing to bet that Vampz wouldn't work quite as hard as he does if rpgtoolkit.com still existed in it's original state today, and TKZ was still merely a resource site.that is why i think it would help a lot if all but the game makers's boards and the one site admin board were removed.
This website is not about to turn into a TKZ portal. It's perfectly capable of being a more influential part of the TK community; it merely needs a dedicated webmaster who's willing to sacrifice more of his time than I am.TKZ doesn't even have an OT forum
Well, it's not exactly fair to put it that way RazzMS was a great inspiration in making TKZ when Triuken was effectively running it (he eventually came to TKZ)
Wow, I'm surprised you actually supported that statement. I was about to disagree with him...Mind you, I still hate MS for giving us Penguin
I'll trade you a couple of our other users to have him back Razz
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Just wondering, has anyone here noticed how much Dippy's spelling is beginning to improve?
Yeah. I told him to smarten up and write better. He's moveing into the 8th grade now, So I supose he has gotten smarter. <_<
He's still a dumbass. Razz
I'll trade you a couple of our other users to have him back Razz
*cough*vlademir*cough*
Aminaga, your an idiot if you think the members of the TK Army actually hate the TKZ and think of Vampz as "evil". The majority of them post quite often at the TKZ forums. Yes, there were quite a few people pissed off about the switch to PHP back in the day, before you were even a part of the community, but Vampz is absolutely right, they suit larger communities far better than threaded. The entire TK Army concept was created, and exists, as a joke; nothing more. Just because you have a special logo in your signature doesn't make you any more special than anyone else in either community.
Yeah. I to have to admit that I got a little carried away before. But OTR is just a joke. It's just fun to call Vampz evil. Like, his name is VAMPZ and then he changed it to XAVIER. Those are to, very evil names. Razz
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*cough*vlademir*cough*
No! Not Vlad! He can learn his lesson! I can make him!! Please!! I don't wanna have us be on different sides.
Aminaga, your an idiot if you think the members of the TK Army actually hate the TKZ and think of Vampz as "evil".
That's because only you don't think Vampz is evil.
Also, may I point out I am accually beginnig to post more at TKZ. In the OTR embassey that is! Razz