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Post by: Dude Man on August 24, 2006, 08:13:32 PM
<a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5282440.stm?ls' target='_blank'>Read plz.</a>

But yeah, apparently Pluto lost its status as a planet. What do you guys think?
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Post by: DarkElite on August 24, 2006, 08:53:43 PM
No way. I heard that they had only been arguing over it, and that alot of people wanted to take it out because of its small stature.  But I was told that they decided to keep it as a planet, but, by the new "planet standards", tmany other objects would have to be included as planets, including some massive asteriod.

My source wasn't very reliable though... it was Stephen Colbert after all...  Laughing
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Post by: Dude Man on August 24, 2006, 10:47:31 PM
Yeah, they also announced it on the Late Show with David Letterman. He said it was similar to what happened on <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_View' target='_blank'>The View</a>. lol @ star jones.
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Post by: D. Ein on August 25, 2006, 01:03:37 AM
OH NOES!!1

Seriously, who cares? So, now we got 8 planets instead of 9. Big deal. Chances are that the world's gonna end for mankind before we settle the other planets.
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Post by: Dude Man on August 25, 2006, 10:16:56 AM
I know. It's just interesting. Who knows what we could find next?

Maybe Jupiter will loose it's status as a planet because it's to...big.[/dumbjoke]
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Post by: Xorlak on August 25, 2006, 08:21:28 PM
Makes sense, and I sort of expected this to happen eventually.  The problem was of course that if Pluto is a planet, then a whole bunch of other wierd things recently discovered out there would have to be classified as planets too.

Now we can all tell our grankids, "When I was your age we had NINE planets!"  (Heh...)
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 26, 2006, 07:55:38 PM
I heard they thought it was a big clump of ice and rock.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 26, 2006, 09:51:25 PM
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Now we can all tell our grankids, "When I was your age we had NINE planets!"  (Heh...)


By the time I have grandkids, they'll probably find another planet....

The whole Pluto things been debating since its discovery, I knew it would be demoted one day...  :unsure:
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Post by: Dude Man on August 28, 2006, 07:49:46 PM
Quote from: "Xorlak"
Now we can all tell our grankids, "When I was your age we had NINE planets!"  (Heh...)


I've told quite a few people that joke now. Xorlak pwnz.
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Post by: DarkElite on August 29, 2006, 08:27:51 AM
Lol. This sucks. I liked Pluto...  Sad
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Post by: Jenia on August 29, 2006, 10:41:37 AM
Fowiffo does too. Where in hell am I supposed to find topaz crystals now? I never saw any purples on earth...It's inaccessable anyway!

So what? Demotion is part of service in the solar system bridgade.
Heck, saturn or jupiter could be demoted for not having a solid surface!
Probably not anytime soon, though.
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 29, 2006, 11:34:05 AM
Heck soon everything will become demoted for being blown to peices by the sun..
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Post by: Dude Man on August 29, 2006, 12:05:55 PM
When the sun blows up it will take several years for a few planets to get affected by the impact. I think the moon titian will be able to have life for a few thousand years after the sun blows up. (Unless my science teacher is wrong)
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 29, 2006, 12:09:26 PM
doesen'tmean thigs wont blow up there are plenty of other stars.
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Post by: D. Ein on August 29, 2006, 07:08:04 PM
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When the sun blows up it will take several years for a few planets to get affected by the impact. I think the moon titian will be able to have life for a few thousand years after the sun blows up. (Unless my science teacher is wrong)


No, you see, before the sun blows up, it swells up to like five times its size. It will, in fact, consume four nearest planetary bodies - and guess what, earth's one of them. When the sun blows up, we aren't going to be around to see it. However, you shouldn't worry. It has another 5 billion years or so before it goes KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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Post by: Dude Man on August 29, 2006, 07:20:29 PM
Oh I see. So yeah Burton is wrong about being demoted, since Mercury, Venus and Earth will stop being planets by being consumed by the sun, rather then getting blown up by the sun.
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 29, 2006, 07:50:45 PM
after it explodes it then becomes either a white star (dead one) or a black hole so ya....
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Post by: D. Ein on August 30, 2006, 01:00:51 AM
No, the Sun becomes a white dwarf (you were right with the first one). Then, if it were about eight times its size right now, it would become a neutron star. If it were 20 times bigger, then we'd be talking black holes.
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Post by: Jenia on August 30, 2006, 06:21:14 AM
The sun won't just blow up, it will implode on itself, shrinking quickly just before going KABOOOOOOOOOOM.
It can only become smaller that way, and unless it attracts the remains of the planets in the solar system back to itself you can forget about it becoming a black hole.
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 30, 2006, 09:10:57 AM
so we'd freeze first no more sun just a small star then we get abliborated.
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Post by: D. Ein on August 30, 2006, 10:22:50 AM
Jenia: No, not even the combined mass of all planets would make the Sun bigger, big enough to be a black hole. I mean, we're talking 20 suns here, and the Sun right now contains 98% of the solar system's mass.

Burton: No, it would still swell up before exploding. However, we won't be around to see the sun slowly consume our planet - we would already be fried from heat and/or gamma radiation, FAR before the Sun reaches us.
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Post by: Burton_projects on August 30, 2006, 11:06:41 AM
What ever I don't feel like going back 2 years in my memories..
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Post by: Jenia on August 30, 2006, 12:04:32 PM
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Jenia: No, not even the combined mass of all planets would make the Sun bigger, big enough to be a black hole. I mean, we're talking 20 suns here, and the Sun right now contains 98% of the solar system's mass.

Obviously you didn't get my point. WHat I'm saying is, if the sun consumes the ENTIRE contents of the soler system, it actualy has a chance to start consuming any passing objects as well as moving itself towards other large objects, which means that eventualy it CAN become a black hole that way.
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Post by: AlienDude on August 31, 2006, 02:10:18 PM
actually with the new model we will not only have Pluto, but that other one past Pluto and Vesta as a planet. so that would make 12 planets. Also the planet has a fer greater chance of blowing than the sun. Well at least with Mr van Flandren's (sp) model
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Post by: Dude Man on August 31, 2006, 03:04:46 PM
Well, yeah but it's just the size of the planet that disqualifies it, it's also the fact that the orbit is really messed up to planets' standards.
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Post by: D. Ein on September 02, 2006, 01:26:24 PM
Let's just find a planet as big as the sun, live and evolve there, and not worry about absolutely anything else. Smile

[/impossible]

In fact, Jupiter is around the biggest cold mass able to exist in the Universe. It makes little sense from here - apparently if you add any more matter to it, the gravitational bonds start to strengthen - and thus, the planet becomes more compact.
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Post by: Cuzit on September 08, 2006, 10:36:22 PM
I can sum this whole topic up quickly:

We're screwed. Sad

I'm writing a sci-fi novel based off of the time this stuff happens.  Laughing  But I forgot about our elimination before the Sun actually goes kablooey....  I'm rewriting, anyway, I can work around that. Razz
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Post by: Dude Man on September 09, 2006, 08:43:39 AM
Sound interesting.

But there isn't anything we can really do about it, unless we can master space travel and leave our little solar system before it happens. But not everyone would be able to leave.

Sounds a lot like the apocalypse actually. We leave the prisoners (teh bad) to burn in the flames of the sun (teh flames o' hell), as everyone else (teh good) will be spared and find some better planet (teh heaven lol).

That still has so many plot holes and mistakes, however.
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Post by: Cuzit on September 11, 2006, 09:10:04 PM
Yeah, but its fiction, so....

That's if you were referring to my novel. Laughing

It's getting very... sexual.  And I want that in my book, but it was originally a Young Adults (or was going to be one) book....  So I don't know if that will be the target audience anymore.  But most people that aren't scientists probably won't notice, and I could just say it was impossible to scientifically and logically work around, so I just made it fictional. Laughing

If you don't mind, if I ever finish it, read it, and comment. Laughing  It'll probably take me forever to finish, though.  I was working on it for two years, and got two-hundred college ruled pages done, which translates to an estimated one hundred and thirty-or-so pages typed, and now I'm chunking that and doing a rewrite....  I'm writing the [insert name here (I forgot what it's called, you know the... outline, that's it)] right now, and I'm still very little into the first chapter, at three college-ruled pages....  So....  It's going to take forever. Sad

I'm working on it. Laughing

Woah, that was off topic....
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Post by: D. Ein on September 12, 2006, 09:08:04 PM
I never had enough patience to go through with a book, nor will I ever get any. The longest piece of fiction I've ever written was an 8-page short story...
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Post by: Dude Man on September 13, 2006, 02:55:18 PM
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The longest piece of fiction I've ever written was an 8-page short story...


And a post on DAL. Even though I made the second longest post. Overall your posts are much longer then mine.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.