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Post by: Zeros' on March 02, 2004, 08:03:11 PM
"general forumgoers"  Razz ...im guessing thatd be the little small comunity of polish,icelandic and u.s. people. VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

P.S. BUSH SUCKS! VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE!
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on March 02, 2004, 08:08:19 PM
Yea, what else is new.  though I don't plan to vote (even though I will be 18), i think i'd have to give my support to Kerry (or however it's spelled.)
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Post by: Haraldur on March 03, 2004, 11:57:55 AM
Go Kerry, in Europe we do not like Bush and his tactlessness and lack of foreign policy knowledge.
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Post by: Cesque on March 03, 2004, 12:21:49 PM
I support Kerry, too! Go to hell with your bushmen!
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Post by: Haraldur on March 03, 2004, 01:23:25 PM
Die Bush and his religious conservatives...
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Post by: DarkElite on March 03, 2004, 02:41:50 PM
do not hate one for their religion...do you hate me?

i dislike him for stupidity, not for christianity
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Post by: Haraldur on March 03, 2004, 02:45:27 PM
I said religious conservatives not religious people. I meant the way he discriminates against (Editor: Censored) people, tries to enforce Christianity subtly etc..
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Post by: Cesque on March 03, 2004, 03:07:10 PM
I have nothing against that, heh, but worse thing he done was celebrating end of rommadan with arabian leaders and calling islam religion of peace. Reasons?

- The f*** has no idea what islam is.
- The f*** must celebrate end of rammadan, because he won't stand a chance to celebrate rammadan. He must eat his stupid royal lunch every damn day.
- It's simply stupid to celebrate something you have no God damn idea about
- It was done "pro publica"
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on March 03, 2004, 06:52:27 PM
What else is new, but this topic is being split into General Chit Chat under US Election.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on March 04, 2004, 03:01:50 PM
All support for Kerry.
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Post by: Haraldur on March 04, 2004, 03:02:22 PM
Yay for Kerry!
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Post by: AlienDude on April 02, 2004, 04:56:13 PM
I hate both of them.  They're both with Skull and Crossbones!!
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Post by: DarkElite on April 02, 2004, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Haraldur,Wednesday, March 3, 2004 3:45 PM
I said religious conservatives not religious people. I meant the way he discriminates against (Editor: Censored) people, tries to enforce Christianity subtly etc..
this country was based upon the christian relgion, when the constitution was written, they were expecting it to remain that way....and so, being (Editor: Censored) should, and always be unallowed.....and besides, why would it bother you so much unless you are yourself?  :blink:
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Post by: Dude Man on April 02, 2004, 06:12:11 PM
Maybe because he's not homophobic. I fine with people being (Editor: Censored) aslong as they don't hit on me or anything *shudders* and I say if they wanna get marrierd so be it. What's the harm. Really?
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Post by: Tosoto on April 03, 2004, 01:47:36 AM
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this country was based upon the christian relgion, when the constitution was written, they were expecting it to remain that way....and so, being (Editor: Censored) should, and always be unallowed.....and besides, why would it bother you so much unless you are yourself?  :blink:
Liberty and justice for all, Land of the free. It's all bullshit

If bush bans (Editor: Censored) marriage, it's just because he wants to get re-elected. He'll do anything to get it, even make abortions illegial
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Post by: Haraldur on April 03, 2004, 05:25:24 AM
Actually, where in your constitution does it mention Christianity DarkElite? If it does, where in it does it state it has any importance?
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Post by: Cesque on April 03, 2004, 08:47:28 AM
Consitution is bullshit. Who cares what's there? In Poland, we had constitution (3d in the world after USA and France), and it lasted about 1 day before russian tzaress heard about it and sent it down the drain...

Country does not need constitution to exist. Primal form of US constitution also said women and slaves weren't allowed to vote... And yeah, US is ALMOST christian country, it was mostly found by the puritans.
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Post by: DarkElite on April 03, 2004, 09:02:34 AM
the founding father were all christians (excluding TJ who was in fact Agnostic) and so, because of their beliefs, they felt that it would not have to be said in the constitution (about the based on christianity stuff) because they thought that thier religion would be carried on.....but then others began to come in, and using this new right of pursuit of happiness to their own advantage, shaping the nation to become a mostly Atheatic country....and because of the current evolution of nations bonding, and the econemy in europe merging into one using the euro (as the prophets foretold!!  Surprised ....well, they didnt say that it would be the euro and all that, but they said that the econemy would merge and then the man from babylon will come out, take controll with his "peace and miricles", and then make the world fall!) and now soon, all of the prophesies will begin to come true, and i must pray for all of those who have not yet come to Christ...
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Post by: Cesque on April 03, 2004, 09:25:18 AM
Prayer is a good thing.

But, hmm, rightfully, the America wasn't christian. It belonged to indians. Like aztecs. Which worshipped their gods by sacrificing people by ripping their hearths out every single day to please the sun. The obsidian stairs to the Great Pyramid in Tenochtitlan were simply rotting from the black blood which stained them all the path. I wouldn't say I would like to have such religion.

But by some logic, the aztec god Quetzalcoatl was a sort of their "martyr", an example how to live. He jumped into the fire to arise as a sun, freeing the world from darkness. Being sacrificed to please him - through it mostly touched slaves - was a great honor. Who cares, they were dead anyway.

Your prophersies seem somehow "fit on force" to me  Laughing Where did you get that thing about man from Babylon? Apocalypse? I can't remember this (checks)... Doesn't seem to be anywhere...
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Post by: DarkElite on April 03, 2004, 11:57:12 AM
revelations....im not sure which chapter exactly..  Wink
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Post by: Raging Gogeta on April 08, 2004, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: Haraldur,Saturday, April 3, 2004 7:25 AM
Actually, where in your constitution does it mention Christianity DarkElite? If it does, where in it does it state it has any importance?
Then why would Jefferson write the Constitution? Oh well. Just look at the Constitution, and see how it refers towards Christianity and sort of Islam since I (we the Muslims) belive in God. I can't get this out of my head.

The Preamble, Article 51 in The Federalist:

"We the People of the United States, in order to form a more Perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common Defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution of the United States of America."

Part of the Decelration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men were created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, or that which among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
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Post by: Haraldur on April 09, 2004, 08:25:06 AM
It did not say who the Creator(s) was. It could betaken to have the creator as a parent, like your mother for example.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on April 09, 2004, 10:57:22 AM
Possible...
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Post by: Spyder on April 10, 2004, 01:52:25 AM
Quote from: Tosoto,Saturday, April 3, 2004 12:47 AM
Quote from: DarkElite,Friday, April 2, 2004 6:18 PM
this country was based upon the christian relgion, when the constitution was written, they were expecting it to remain that way....and so, being (Editor: Censored) should, and always be unallowed.....and besides, why would it bother you so much unless you are yourself?  :blink:
Liberty and justice for all, Land of the free. It's all bullshit

If bush bans (Editor: Censored) marriage, it's just because he wants to get re-elected. He'll do anything to get it, even make abortions illegial
Abortions should be illegal. There's no reason that someone shuould be having kids on "accident". Even rape victims can take the day-after-pill up to 72 hours after the attack and have a very high chance of preventing pregnancy.
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 06:10:16 AM
I see no reason they should be legal... In Poland, they're legal only in events like rape. But there were cases of desperate woman using syringe and toilet-washing liquid to prevent her pregnacy...

Heh, from ancient times mothers tried to kill their children... And from that times it wasn't considered good... Zoroastrian texts speak of hell penalty for woman, who "was raped, and he didn't want to have a child, so he left her child after birth, saying 'I never had a child'"

And that's another problem. Poland was in last times struck by series of abandoning new-born children in places like trash bins, or putting them into honey jars or barrels and leaving somewhere (that's horrific). Eeeeh.
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Post by: DarkElite on April 10, 2004, 09:28:44 AM
yes, i must say....it is horrid, and its right to make it illegal...this world is so foolish and fed with our own greed...i find it pathedic....i find myself pathedic...such a waste of life used for our malcontent...and then kill others making even more of a waste......
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 12:33:50 PM
That's what the System of Demiurge also known as commerce or greed (spawns of the Allmighty Capitalissimus) lead to. People want to earn money for washing unborn children away like dust with a hoover.

The people always were having fun and cash with violence and murdering. In antiquity, crowds looked upon death matches between gladiators, ancient Aztecs were playing po-ca-toc (sort of handball, but with the rules allowing you to murder other players), in middle-ages people were publicaly tortured and executed, nowadays we have reality shows and people who think like "gimme 100000$ and I'll cut my thinger off".

People always wanted to earn money on other people... eh...

And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!
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Post by: DarkElite on April 10, 2004, 02:22:39 PM
yeah....life sucks now...(execpt for working on the TK  B) )...all the adults expect too much from us...they dont understand what we go through now...they all lived in their happy times where violence was few (exept for the racial issues in the past)...and now they believe that were happy and having fun....they think some of us kill ourselves because we are confused....when infact we do because we have no other way out of this God foresaken life.....
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 03:22:45 PM
Well usally when things get really really bad and you want to kill yourself. It get better then it was before (Well at least fo me it dose) I've been there....Quite recently. But your right adults think were all happy and stuff and we have no fealings n' stuff....they suck!
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 04:43:02 PM
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris
bilibris tritici denario et tres bilibres hordei denario et vinum et oleum ne laeseris

This burns like wrath in my mind.

Let's be realistic, we've packed this world like a gift for Demiurge and sent it to him via mail.

And yeah, times were better in the past. At least in early post-communistic Poland. At least I could play in the city park and people came their with dogs. Now everyone runs away hearing the world "park". This place is scared with empty syringes, condoms and bags people use to smell glue with. Bandits plague the streets. You ask about hour, about direction - and you get beaten up so hard that when you wake up, you don't even realise you've just lose all your money and your left lung is cut out and sent to Russia by some guys earning money on people's organ harvesting.

And I remember people having fun going to supermarkets in the capital, they were tourist attraction. Now we have 3 supermarkets in town, and 4th is being built. Normal shops? They're almost all closed. When new supermarkets are opened up, people are ready to murder others to get some cheap products. There were several people trampled almost to death last time Media Markt was opened and they sold TVs cheap.

At what price business?

Not to mention reality shits, ekhm, shows. WHO IN THE HELL ThINKED THESE OVER? How about audio-tele games? It's soooooo stupid. You pay 1.44 zlotys for sending SMS with answer, and 1 people winds. This begs for "stupidity policy" and censorship...

Else normal citisens will be turned into money-hungry, ready-for-everything, sold-their-soul-for-15-dollars-in-special-christmas-promotional-offer ghouls roaming the streets.
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 04:46:43 PM
Wow...That's a preety harsh life...It's not like that over in Canada *baby voice* Were just all scared of the bad people!
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Post by: Haraldur on April 10, 2004, 04:49:33 PM
You notice that all of us here, and so all the people here against abortion, seem to be male, when it really is the choice of the women. Who are we to stop them? They have to suffer everything to do with child-birth, and probably will end up having to bring up the child.
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Post by: DarkElite on April 10, 2004, 04:55:09 PM
true, but still....killing the child because of this "accident"? they had the choice to get screwed, and they had the ability to take pills or patches or whatever....they had a chance, but no! we're all too lazy to take damn pill every morning!  so we now want to resort to killing "it"!  :angry:
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 04:59:34 PM
Those are both very good points. So my conclution is to try and build.....A TIME MACHINE so instead of abortions they go back in time and make a better choice! Think how much easier life would be!
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 05:01:01 PM
Okay. So who's gonna go and ask Sophia about the topic? Hey! Don't look at me like that! I'm not going!!!  Surprised

You see, the reproductivity was since ancient - no, since prehistoric times - holy. Sacred. Divine. A gift of life. Every single religion had a goddess of fertility (or whatever it is called). Judaism was a pro-creative religion, too (being unable to have a child was consider being cursed by the God, having much offsrping was considered blessing). The whole case about worshipping procreation dates back to about 30 thousands years ago.

The first sculptures in stone were representing woman, with body parts having something to do with fertility - like breasts - enlarged, and stuff like hands, head only symbolical (it was ironicaly called 'venus' type by archeologists)

And abortion is the sin against the Great Goddess and the Great (AKA natural) Religion.

First words God spoke upon animals after creating them, with which it blessed them? "Reproduce and multiply...".

But who cares about some natural order in modern times, where people grow in such number they deserve culling?

EDIT: You guys post FAST! 2 reponses before I put up mine.

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Those are both very good points. So my conclution is to try and build.....A TIME MACHINE so instead of abortions they go back in time and make a better choice! Think how much easier life would be!


This way someone could go in the past and kill his own mother not to be born.
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 05:03:41 PM
But then some one else can go back intime and then stop him! It's the cause and solution of probloms! With Time Machines we can't loose!!! WAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!! TIME MACHINES!!!
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 05:09:59 PM
That's what people resort to, while I try to be as constructive as possible.  Laughing

You see, I even wanted to put that as a theme in the end of game Satarel Legacy. A jew Izaak constructs a jewel allowing him time travel using the Primal Clay, teleports himself a few seconds before, grabs the Izaak which not yet used this power, then begins to teleport like this infinitely, getting his clones*, creating an army of jews all called Izaak, sends them all in time to study all possible knowledge of all times, then with his army he alters events of time and creates a world where he is worshipped like a god.

The idea went down the drain, along with idea of Cabal who constructed machine to destroy the whole universe using the reverse process of the one Gods used to make it, sending the anti-creational rays from a giant telescope-like pinnacle of his observatory.

* it is possible. Ever played Chrono Trigger? If you leave Robo in time, then return to future and get him to join you, then return to past there are 2 Robos, 1 you left in past and 1 you took from there. It can work like this into infinity.

So? Time travel is against law of matter order. By doing this you would reproduce matter from nothing. So, bah! It's senseless. It would destroy the universe.
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 05:16:39 PM
Oh your hopless! Or I am...well one of us is hopeless! :unsure:
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Post by: Cesque on April 10, 2004, 05:23:49 PM
Why should I be hopeless?
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Post by: DarkElite on April 10, 2004, 05:28:14 PM
everyone is hopeless you fools!!! we all will die when it comes...  <_<
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Post by: Dude Man on April 10, 2004, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: Cesque,Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:23 PM
Why should I be hopeless?
I don't know? But one of us is....Probally me....
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Post by: AlienDude on April 28, 2004, 03:00:47 PM
Don't worry about it a cataclysm should be coming soon.  Just think of all tha politicians that will be gone...ahhhhhh... Smile  Yay meteors yayyyyy.  Just look how nice and Satany they are.  isn't that cute  Wink  Razz .



btw, bush and kerry are two heads of the same serpent.  it doesn't matter who wins, we're getting bitten in the ass anyway!!!!  As i said before they are part of the Skull and Crossbones.  They like to do that taking over the world stuff, oh yeah, also the one world order stuff.  Yayyyyyyy.... *sarcastic cough with meaning*

We're going to have fun tonight!!!
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Post by: Dude Man on April 28, 2004, 03:39:01 PM
Yeah! Fun! I love fun! Fun, fun, fun is fun!
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Post by: Number Eight on May 01, 2004, 09:07:45 AM
I think that Karey wont be an amazing president but he will be better than bush, definetly.
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Post by: Haraldur on May 01, 2004, 11:38:19 AM
It would take a lot of effort to be worse than Bush.
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Post by: Dude Man on May 01, 2004, 12:11:25 PM
I'll say! Well let's hope Bush will fall! Laughing  Very Happy
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Post by: Haraldur on May 02, 2004, 06:14:07 AM
His aproval ratings are still higher than Kerry's though, which sucks.
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Post by: AlienDude on May 04, 2004, 12:02:39 PM
I happened to like Dean.  He had a lot of good things going.  Too bad Kerry threw his name in the mud.  Mmmmmmmmmm mmmmuuuuud...

Anybody hungry right now.  gimme some of my mom's stuffed cabbage stuffing (just the stuffing).  Damn that stuff is good:  meat, rice, green peppers, onions, bacon, all simmered in tomato soup.  pinch of salt and im happy as a clam!!