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Miscellaneous => Archives => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dude Man on March 08, 2004, 08:45:07 PM
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How did you all find out about TK? I'm not doing this as a poll because there is probally too many ways. Anyway, I was just in one of my deep thinking times when I just wondered how you all found out about RPG Toolkit? How I found out was I was at Downloads.com and then I wanted to download some RPGs so I typed in RPG and then I saw right at the top RPG Toolkit. And then I was like Wow! Cool! And then I thought, since so many of these downloads on this site don't work what makes me think this will? So I just was like it's to good to work so I left it be then later I just was like, Let's just download it what have I got to loose. So I downloaded it, it worked, I was happy and then I stared makeing games....You probally ALL thought that was the most boreing story ever told but whatever. So anyways....How did you all find out about TK?
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my mom
I'm home skoold(sp wrong heh heh)
so my mom gets my work from places(i.e. internet,ops for learnig,the store)
anywho thats how i got into it. Very Happy
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Cool. Your mom eh? I don't have a mommy....
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awwwwwwwwwww
*dramtic music in Background*
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Well, For me. I was at GameHippo.com, and I wanted to know how these guys could make these games. So I clicked on the development section and there was a list. The only RPG makers were RPG Toolkit and RPG Maker 2000. The RPG Maker didn't work, so here I am
The list I saw when I first found the toolkit (http://http://gamehippo.com/gamedev/tools.shtml)
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To make a short story long, about 7 or 8 years ago, I started developing what is known today as Godiva:Alpha as a Pen&Paper RPG, since my parents wouldn't let my brother and I play AD&D because it's "satanic" (*cough*). I borrowed elements from a ton of RPG's including AD&D, Diablo, FF, and BoF; as well as some elements from the DragonLance book series which my mom got me hooked on for about a year. I wrote up all the pages of info and drew all the maps on the only computer I had, an Apple IIGS. For those unfamiliar with pre-mac Apple computers, this was the best of them. Ran at a whole 8MHz, with 1MB of RAM (after being upgraded) and absolutely no CD-ROM or hard drive. It was a color screen though Razz . The game was a hit with not only a few of my friends, but even my parents played a few games! Satan works in mysterious ways eh? However, there were problems. Pen&Paper games take a long time to play, partially because of die rolling and calculating hit points, etc. Obviously computer RPG's don't have this disadvantage, so I started programming die programs, and eventually battle systems in AppleSoft BASIC (much like QBasic). Roughly 2 years later I got my first IBM compatible PC, a 25Mhz Intel 486-SX comp with 8MB's of RAM and a 540MB hard drive for $250. A few months into paying the family friend (about $75 worth) I got a Pentium 100MHz, 24MB RAM, 800MB hard drive for absolutely free; and I basically told the person that sold me the other comp that she wasn't getting another penny. A friend of mine had a much better computer, as well as the internet, and he found a program called "Adventure Creation Kit". It was a DOS program that let you create your own RPG's. Obviously I wasted no time in starting the PC port of Godiva. A few months later he handed me a couple floppys that contained a program he found that ran in Windows. The RPGToolkit, probably v2.01. Now anyone that lives in the US....and maybe even outside the US, has probably recieved no less than 100 or so AOL CD's in the mail for free internet time, right? This was my ticket to freedom, and with my 14.4, and eventually 56.6k modem I logged onto the internet, and to a little black and red Xoom site, home of Awesome Computing, and the RPGToolkit. By this time 2.02 was out, and I downloaded it. Not long after I visited the forums, and joined a community of roughly 10 people, of which....only one remains active (aside from myself). Cookie to the person who can guess who Very Happy .
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a cookie? ok then
hmmmm...
Chris Matthews comes to mind.
Am I right? Laughing
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Chris Matthews has unfortunately never really been a part of the actual community.
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I found it on that RPG Maker website that went down about 2 years ago (or did it?). RPGMaker.net right? I tried everything on the site, and Toolkit was the best out of all of them.
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awwwwwwwwwww
*dramtic music in Background*
Acually I lied. Sorry, I really do. But she can be a pain sometimes. Kinda like Dippy. But there family so I'll just have to get used to them....
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I first found it in 1999 I think. My dad had bought a computer magazine, and it had a demo CD with some files, and some games. I took from the CD a game called ABADDON, which was freeware and looked a little like a gameboy RPG, except in colour. I also took a strange little program called RPG Toolkit Development System version 2.0. However, I mostly used it to play the demo game, you know, the old one with 2 cities and the attack of the giants...
I then left it untouched until November 2003, and I downloaded the latest version of TK2 then, and also TK3.
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id say it was either MotD, or vampz.... but i fopund the toolkit in a similar way to dude man...i was looking for a good game creation system on download.com, and then there it was, but at first i thought it was too hard and so i almost quit (thank God i didnt!)
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Cool. Very cool. I found alot of things on Downloads.com. There was this other game makeing thing I found called GameDev and it was well....Not good! Laughing
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Once upon a time (December, 2000) I found a link on a website titled "RPG Maker". I had always dreamt of making SNES style console RPGs, but it had never occurred to me that it could be done on my computer. Two installation files and several hours later (modem...) I had RPG Maker 2000 installed... and the blasted thing wouldn't work... (Good old Pentium 2 Windows 95 machine, heh...)
The next day, I decided that there must be more than one "RPG Maker" on the net, so I did a search and came across a page with a bunch of makers like the one posted above. Only two of the descriptions caught my eye, mainly because they were very "flexible" and imposed "no limitations". I chose the one that wasn't advertised as being in a "beta" state... Sphere!
Sphere appeared to work, but the demo was very incomplete (it advertised a Final Fantasy clone, but it was just the Fighter walking around the world map, with no encounters and no solid areas...). I tried to go though the tutorial, but it was apparently outdated and didn't correspond with the actual program.
Third time's a charm. The other program was the RPG Toolkit. Although I wasn't particularly impressed by the demo, I quickly saw it had a huge amount of potential as I went through the help files. I started Dark Age the next day with a front view of Vance in MS Paint. My new favorite hobby was born!
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Hehe, you were not pathetic like me, the game player...
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I hope someday I can make one of those 100% original games that are good. Like DA2 or D&C.
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I had the old RPGMaker 95 on my other computer, but i never figured it out and left it alone untill around 01' then I had an idea for an RPG and i went to dogpile.com and typed in (RPG Makers) and found rpgtoolkit.com and then it started. ive been around since then, on these forums also, probably the only guys who know me from way back then are MotD, spyder, xorlak, MJ (since he ran the forums), and other people around then.
and spyder the anwser to your question is MJ
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RPGToolkit was the only RPG Maker I have ever used and probally will only use. Because from what I've herd all the rest of them stink!
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and spyder the anwser to your question is MJ
Nah, Mike isn't too active in the community anymore. He's still in charge of the forums, and he's posted a couple times in the staff section since the rpgtoolkit.com changeover, but that's about it. No cookie for you, sorry Wink . Anyone else want to take a guess?
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can we guess twice? :rolleyes:
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Hmmm... a clue might be: which was the earliets game by someone still using the TK?
... Cyranoid/Cy?
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Cyaranoid has a game?
Anyways, even if he did, I joined the community before him, so no.
Yes you can guess twice.
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Depends if ya classify Walker as active. Seafroggys was after me...i miss those days....Cyrus isn't technically part of the community in the same way as he was....matt was after me....and I doubt Kappy would be classifiable as active....though...
In regards to the topic, I had always wanted to make my own rpg, so I did some (at the time) excite searching, found a site that listed some RPG dev tools, saw the toolkit, downloaded it, tried it, deleted it, came back a month or so later, downloaded again, and stayed. That was probably 2.03-ish...yea, I think I still have that on CD somewhere.....this was back in October of '99.
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Actually I forgot about kaptan, so I guess that would make it two people. kaptan is active on the off-topic forum, which is still part of the community. Cyrus posts quite a bit over on the TKZ forums. He seems to love starting contraversial debates Razz . Cyrus was the person I was reffering to though.
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I've never her of Cyrus. What's he/she/it all about? And this person made a game?
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Deceit & Conquest. He currently writes series of books based on his game idea and makes a movie. He is sometimes present on tkzone boards and generally hates me. Laughing
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(From beginning of this topic...)
I first heard of the TK when I was looking for RPG Makers on Download.com...the TK was the first to come up, heh.
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Meh... I think he is just finds your homophobic tendencies a little distasteful.
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Deceit & Conquest. He currently writes series of books based on his game idea and makes a movie. He is sometimes present on tkzone boards and generally hates me. Laughing
Oh yeah. I've herd of the game but I didn't really pay attieon to who made the game. Meh of well I don't even know the name of the person who made Mini Cars...or The Unkowns....Or 6 Wizards. And I beleave quit a few more I don't know. :rolleyes: Oh well!
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I've never her of Cyrus. What's he/she/it all about? And this person made a game?
Really? I'm pretty shocked...
Cyrus created the #1 TK game, Deceit and Conquest.
*Edit: Whoops, didn't realize there was a 2nd page Razz
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LOL. Ah that's okay. I know now! Cause I'm smart....In the head....
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LOL. Ah that's okay. I know now! Cause I'm smart....In the head....
Yeah! Braveheart kicks ass! Easily one of my favorite movies...speaking of which...been about a month since I last saw it...I better pop it in again tomarrow...
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Um....Yeah Bravehart... :unsure: :blink:
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Cyrus created the #1 TK game, Deceit and Conquest.
Personally, I like Sophia's or Xorlak's games more... Deceit & Conquest is a bit, well, static. Let's say you're on a war, but it lacks dynamism. I like the part about Order of Demose, but it's too strange for a start of a game.
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Braveheart is a shocker - but then again arn't all Mel Gibson films apart from Lethal Weapon 1 =P.
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I really want to play D&C! (Editor: Censored)ing computer will not plauy it! *sob*
Great film: School Of Rock. Awesome.
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Good films? I'll refresh my list...
- Passion of Christ (awesome)
- Amistad (Spielberg's)
- Private Ryan (Spielberg's)
- Empire of the Sun (Spielberg's)
- Twelve Apes (one of few movies involving time-travel I like)
- Kola (czech movie, masterpiece)
- Show (polish excellent movie)
- Underground (Emil Kosurtnica's movie, he makes excellent movies)
- No Man's Land (Kosturnica's, too, haven't seen it completely but it's excellent)
I haven't seen School of Rock. Bravehart is good, but seen better. At least it's better than "Patriot", which was total crap.
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hmmmm...Cyrus,rings a bell,not shure witch one though <_<
so much for the cookie <_< <_<
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Boondock Saints is a bad ass movie as well.
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Just watched Sixth Sense on TV, heh... I see dead people... ALL THE TIME...
Seen better movies anyway.
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Oldy enough I don't have a favorite movie....I like to much stuff..... Laughing
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Hey Spyder, good taste. Boondock Saints kicks ass.
Boondock Saints
Brazil (Terry Giliam)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (Terry Giliam)
Jabberwocky (Terry Giliam)
The Adventures of Baron Munschausen (Terry Giliam)
School Of Rock (Jack Black as main charachtar)
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Terry Jones and Terry Giliam)
Monty Python's The Life of Brian (Terry Jones) *Always look on the bright side of life...*
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (Terry Jones and first part Terry Giliam)
The Man Who Sued God (Billy Connoly stars)
Lord of the Rings trilogy (Peter Jackson)
Goodfellas
Godfather trilogy
A Fish Called Wanda
Bowling For Columbine (Michael Moore)
Con Air
1984 (adapted from great book by George Orwell)
Animal Farm (adapted from great book by George Orwell)
Pirates of the Carribean
The Time Bandits (Terry Giliam)
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Did you know about the sequel Haraldur? They're working on it right now. www.boondocksaints.com (http://http://www.boondocksaints.com)
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Wow! This topic didn't change one bit at all what so ever! Laughing Oh well it happens all the time...
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Never heard of the movie at all...
Best movies of all time (in order):
- Kiss of the Dragon
- Fist of Legend
- The Matrix
- Lethal Weapon 4
- Rush Hour 2
- Police Story
- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
- Rush Hour
- Lethal Weapon 3
- Black Dragon
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I haven't seen half of those movies. But other other half I have seen and I like them. Good taste Motd
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Dey all Martial Arts related, heh
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LOL Yeah they are. The Matrix has werid martial arts. I like that!
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Matrix was Yuen Woo Ping's second-best...best was Fist of Legend.
For those who don't know, Yuen Woo Ping did the fight choreography...heh.
Cory Yuen is better than Woo Ping, though. Cory Yuen would've made the Matrix 2 and 3 fight scenes involve more manipulation of the environment and less UN-realistic air fighting.
Cory Yuen and Jet Li's best work - Kiss of the Dragon. Why? Fight scenes were all ground-based, so Jet Li used NO wires whatsoever, and nobody can use his wirework in "The One" to say he sucks. Damn right! And the story was amazing! Made sense, unlike "Cradle 2 the Grave" (WORST movie ever).
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Spyder, I did know.
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Hmm... I've seen Fish called Wanda... quite good but still not best. No one beats Spielberg at impressio- and expressio- nistic movies about war or injustice.
As for karate movies, for me, they all look almost the same. I only liked Enter the Dragon, really.
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They are NOT all the same, you idiot. Also, please don't use "Karate" as the general term for Martial Arts. Karate is the Japanese Martial Art, and even so, it is divided into a few forms, such as Shotokan Karate and Kenpo Karate.
And most Martial Arts movies revolve around Kung Fu. More specifically, the southern styles of Kung Fu. Sometimes there will be some Tsing Yi Zang and Pa Gua Zang as well, but that is usualy it.
If you say "Karate" to describe general martial arts again, then I will hunt you down and show you what EVERY Martial Art will do to you (yes, I know many of them)
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They are NOT all the same, you idiot. Also, please don't use "Karate" as the general term for Martial Arts. Karate is the Japanese Martial Art, and even so, it is divided into a few forms, such as Shotokan Karate and Kenpo Karate.
Don't call me idiot for not knowing what you know. I guess you have no idea what's difference between chu-ko-0nu and arbalest, MORON. And the only martial art that is proven REALLY useful against REAL opponents is israeli KRAV MAGA.
First rule of krav maga? "If you fight for the most noble of purposes - to defend your life - you are allowed to take opponent's life".
Krav maga is not a show between 2 black belts on the scene. A soldier skilled in it can kill during the storm, in fog, unarmed, about 3-4 people with guns. Krav-maga employs almost any known weapons, it's training how to kill with fists, kicks, knife, guns, everything, in every situation.
(too bad the trainings are so brutal that you can break a few bones during PRACTICE)
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Actually, Taekwondo IS practical. I have used it in a real-world situation. I didn't kill the guy, of course. Just did enough to get him to the ground, and disabled one of their arms.
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I'm gonna have to agree with Cesque. You can not expect everyone to know what you know. I use karate as a general term, as do millions of others. To people that don't follow every detail, it doesn't really matter what you call it as long as the person your talking to knows what your talking about, which you do. You also shouldn't expect that since you know a bit of karate, you can go around kicking everyone's ass. Your only going to get yourself into trouble.
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Hmm, on other hand people who know more in certain categories are suppose to educate those who know less to keep balance in the world Laughing
Mark, let's say a black belt meets krav-maga master in battle. Most likely, before even he begins to employ his techniques, he would have a knife in his throat. One of the basic rules of krav-maga knife fighting:
- Term knife fighting is false. It's not fight. It's a murder. Whoever strikes first, wins.
- A person with bare fists will never, ever be able to kill a person with knife, if it's consious, skilled and motivated to kill. Never.
I know watcha saying, however. In my elementary school there was a guy who practiced nin-jutsu (or something). He usually laid down anyone in 3-4 moves. Except, of course, someone got to him when he was standing back, coiled arm around his neck, thrown to the ground and kicked a few times. But that wasn't too honorable.
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Well, sucks for him.
And it's Ninjutsu. He was no master. Any master of Ninjutsu wouldn't even need 2 moves to take one person down. Also, half of Ninjutsu is stealth. Had he really known what he was doing, nobody would have been able to touch him...ever. Why do you think the Samurai were pissing in their pants when the Ninja started killing them off in Japan?
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Had he really known what he was doing, nobody would have been able to touch him...ever.
People that are masters at martial arts arn't invincible, despite how much Power Rangers has led you to believe this.
Just look at Bruce Lee...
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Bruce Lee was no master...he only got to his first weapons form, and his third Kung Fu form. He may be skilled, but his knowledge was lacking.
And just out of curiosity, what the hell is Power Rangers? I mean, with Martial Arts, I've always watched Jackie Chan and Jet Li movies. Sheeyit.
Oh, and by the way, I know what the hell I'm talking about when I say that had his friend mastered Ninjutsu that he wouldn't have been taken down like he was. Shit, you people don't understand anything.
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Um, apparently you didn't read his post very well either. His friend was in elementary school. No one masters ninjitsu in elementary school...
You seriously don't know who the Power Rangers are?
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Seriously, I don't.
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http://www.rangercentral.com (http://http://www.rangercentral.com)
I don't think there is an official site, so this will have to do.
You live in the US right? I find it kind of hard to believe you could've possibly avoided the Power Ranger...phenomenon...for lack of a better word.
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Well, I just watched Jackie Chan and Jet Li movies growing up...and a little bit of Dragon Ball Z. Also, I spent a SHITLOAD of time playing the classic video games (Mario, Sonic, Kirby...etc)
*EDIT*I checked that page out...HOW THE HELL DID IT BECOME A CRAZE!? IT LOOKS SO GODDAMN (Editor: Censored)!*END EDIT*
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For me I stopped watching it at the age of 7. I started watching at 6 1/2.
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LOL, it IS (Editor: Censored)! It's got to be one of the most retarded TV shows ever created, and yet kids can't seem to get enough of it. The show started probably six or seven years ago, and they're still making new episodes. Every season or two they come out with a new type of Power Rangers to keep it fresh.
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Yes, they do. Very cheap.
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Anybody have explosive ordances? There are ways to remove plagues upon society.
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Good God, this shit is always put on 3rd polish channel in early hours. At least if I go on summer holidays to my grandma, we have something to laugh at with my brother.
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Indeed.
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The first power rangers were the best. I think they had to change it because people said they were racist because the black ranger was black and the yellow ranger was asian
@MotD: A hot asian
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heh,my craze with them lasted about 5 days. B) now I watch other,much better stuff
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Wow...I never even realized that until now... (about the color of the power rangers)
and yeah, she was pretty good looking (the asian)
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Yeah, she was (not that I knew when I was 6).