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Post by: Colin on April 26, 2004, 09:19:37 PM
The date: April 26, 2004
The time: 7:00 GMT
The location: Xorlak's Message Board

I come to visit and what do I find...

[No Subject] - Word2

I open it up.

"Im a man-whore." (that may now be exact punctuation, it's been deleted)

Two thoughts occur to me:

-BAN WORD2!!!

And...

-That doesn't quite sound like Word2... could someone be impersonating him?

I, for me, want something done about this.

Maybe something is already being done (Xorlak posted in the protected forum shortly after deleting the message)...?

But it sound just typical of Word2... so...

BAN HIM!!!
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Post by: Colin on April 26, 2004, 09:27:53 PM
Sorry to double post but you can't change the title of a post on ipb.

The latest news:

There's a conversation of sorts going on in the Protected Forum. I don't like it.

Xorlak just posted again. I was away for several minutes, though. Chances are someone posted in between.
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Post by: Asimir on April 27, 2004, 08:03:29 AM
But Marz is the only man-whore in the TK community.


I don't like the mod's secret conversations. I bet they talk about us, and say that we smell Sad
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Post by: Cesque on April 27, 2004, 08:31:13 AM
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I don't like the mod's secret conversations. I bet they talk about us, and say that we smell


Stop complaining and take a shower.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 10:20:33 AM
If Xorlak confirms this, and thinks we should ban him, I'll consider it. At minimum he will be warned.

As for the staff forum, we don't even talk about the community much...if at all. It's mostly about the site, as it should be. Here's a screenshot of it (http://http://www.mysticsoftware.net/images/staffforum.jpg). One thread title is censored because I can't talk about it...yet, but soon! Soon all will be revealed!
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 10:46:18 AM
Belive it or not i didn't post that, if you ppl don't belive me, then goto members online, click on my name and view all posts made by Word2. If they are there then I posted in my sleep. KSN i don't even know whatshisnames forum url, and don't even know where to get it, If anyone posted that then it was probly you or somone else. I havent been on the computer much lately. So if it was me (and I creat accounts when I want that stuff done) then I was posting in my sleep. As for "BAN HIM BAN HIM" STFU you just want me outta here, that's why I think it was you, If anything you can have him check my IP and have spyder look at my IP here.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 10:49:05 AM
If it's your account that posted it, then I will assume it was you that posted it. Again, I'm waiting for Xorlak to get back to me on what he saw/deleted. I'm fine for just adding a mark to your warning meter, but if Xorlak thinks you should be banned for it, I'll consider it because of your actions over at TKZ. That doesn't mean if xorlak says ban you, that I'll ban you. It depends on what his reasoning is, etc. Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. So far you've done much better than over at the TKZ forums.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:49 AM
If it's your account that posted it, then I will assume it was you that posted it. Again, I'm waiting for Xorlak to get back to me on what he saw/deleted. I'm fine for just adding a mark to your warning meter, but if Xorlak thinks you should be banned for it, I'll consider it because of your actions over at TKZ. That doesn't mean if xorlak says ban you, that I'll ban you. It depends on what his reasoning is, etc. Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. So far you've done much better than over at the TKZ forums.
Thankyou spyder, you have some reasoning compared with Vampz and KSN.
Had that been be It would have been very old, like first, but I highly doubt that.
Im sure it's just another impersonation. For all I know/we it could have been KSN that logged out and used my name as a guest Then logged in and copyed and pasted it in the screen. After all KSN was the first to know about it, and actualy say somthing, that I know of.
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Post by: Cesque on April 27, 2004, 11:18:19 AM
Lol, we have been given insight into top secret files...

Let me decode the censored message... hmm, it might take a while...

(R or P)
(either q, y, g or j)
(c or o)
(w? o?)
(???)
(l)
(l? L?)
(h? i?)
(???)

Rycowille? What the hell?

Hmm, it might take longer period...  B)

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Im sure it's just another impersonation. For all I know/we it could have been KSN that logged out and used my name as a guest Then logged in and copyed and pasted it in the screen. After all KSN was the first to know about it, and actualy say somthing, that I know of.


You sure have no reasoning, and hatred is man's best guide, right?
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Post by: Haraldur on April 27, 2004, 11:20:09 AM
I tried to look at it magnified, and I still could not figure it out. We really are suckers for filth are we not? Hehehe.
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Post by: Asimir on April 27, 2004, 11:27:02 AM
Quote from: Haraldur,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:20 PM
I tried to look at it magnified, and I still could not figure it out. We really are suckers for filth are we not? Hehehe.
me too.

we really are pathetic Razz
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 12:28:32 PM
Quote from: Cesque,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:18 PM
You sure have no reasoning, and hatred is man's best guide, right?
I know He hates me, I don't hate anyone. I have plenty, He dislikes me so much, and he also said taht many times on TKZ.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 01:27:04 PM
Ha ha! do you guys think I wouldn't have thought of that already? When I made the image I zoomed in to make sure you wouldn't be able to tell. Hell, the only reason I didn't just delete the thread name altogether was because I knew you guys would try to look at it! LOL.

Anyways, what you said Word2, would be impossible. When you login as guest, and post, it says guest after your name. As for Vampz decision to ban you from TKZ, I supported his decision. This community is seperate from TKZ, that is the only reason you are not banned here as well.

As for listening to other people when they suggest someone be banned, unless it's a very old oldbie that I have a decent amount of respect for, or they can provide solid proof (of which KSNiloc cannot, as the post was deleted) then I really don't even consider it. Being banned is a serious deal, and people should treat it as such.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 01:28:09 PM
see? =D


(This is Spyder)
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Post by: Cesque on April 27, 2004, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: Word2
Quote from: Cesque,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:18 PM
You sure have no reasoning, and hatred is man's best guide, right?
I know He hates me, I don't hate anyone. I have plenty, He dislikes me so much, and he also said taht many times on TKZ.

He? You must respect Him if you refer to Him from capital letter...

Yeah, he might dislike you, but there is a thin line between hatred and hipocrisy. Flaming one and saying someone hates one is not what is imposting one's posting (whatever).

Let's even assume he is a hipocrite, actually, so you prefer to fight hipocrisy with made-out evidence?
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 01:29:11 PM
The difference between a guest post and a user post is imidiately noticeable I'd say.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 01:36:46 PM
Your right, I see, ok scratch that one. You like Vampz's reason for banning me! I say the world doesn't even have the BOTD or the Fair trial.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 01:40:18 PM
Heh. I thought it was a pretty fair trial. The evidence was right in front of everyone, and everyone watched as you commited "the crime". Vampz was the judge, the moderators and much of the rest of the community was the jury. The only thing missing was you didn't have a lawyer. If you have any idea who would represent you, then maybe you can get off on a mistrial, and have Vampz schedule a re-trial...though somehow I doubt it.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 01:46:47 PM
Personaly I would have rather talked to Vampz personaly about this, He banned me before I could get a AIM address or post somthing to the extent. The jury hates me so it wouldn't be a fair trial in that way, and well as do the mods. Vampz was of cours the judge. The crime, only Asimir and Z were the witnesses to it, Z didn't think it was me, and asimir did, I personaly think it was Asimir, but when Rhodes told me in a IM. And I had zzzurdeadzzz's IP blocked from my AIM system, as I just talked to him about 5 mins earlier and blocked him because he was being a idiot. But what TKZ needs is a warning level meter like here. To put it simply, If I had the brains to do a impersonation, I would also have the brains not to pull it off. And I can be impersonated, just like some one did and KSN posted about.


Edit- I have somthing that is similer to AIM and YM, it's called stridon, it comes in a CD and it has a BAN IP feature Smile.
also, I would have represented myslef, or Dan might have Smile.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 01:55:11 PM
The only way to be impersonated on these forums is to find out the password of the person your impersonating, and unless you picked something like "password" as your password, this likely wouldn't happen. I'm surprised no one's figured out my password honestly...it's pretty simple (no I will not be giving hints...I use this password for litterally almost everything for the last 7 years). As far as contacting Vampz, he said you'd been emailing him. I'd say that was talking to him personally. As for the mods at TKZ hating you, I can assure you I do not hate you (or you would be banned here and the chat room as well). I'm pretty sure most of the mods at TKZ don't hate you either. One admin even said he didn't completely agree with Vampz (no, I won't name names). It comes down to the fact that it "is" Vampz site, and he does have complete control over it, and basically it was his decision on whether or not to ban you. As for Asimir, I trust him quite a bit as far as whether or not to tell the truth. He doesn't seem like one to play jokes like that. As I said earlier, banning is serious, and should be taken seriously, from both those being accused, and those that are doing the accusing.

It takes no brains to impersonate. It is an act of stupidity, and treated as such.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 02:10:50 PM
KSNiloc, I've found your accusation to be false. Xoralk's last deleted post was on April 9th, and as he's the only moderator for his forum, he's the only one that can delete posts there (other than the rest of the admin). There were no posts even started by Word2 that I could see between 4/25 and today, and I "can" look at deleted posts. Your warning level has been increased. I suggest you do not repeat your mistake.

Word2, I'm appologize for KSNiloc's action, and I hope it won't happen again.

How's that for a fair trial  Razz
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Post by: Haraldur on April 27, 2004, 02:11:39 PM
Word2: the reason the jury hated you was because of spam, which can be considered a reason for banning anyway. If the jury was indeed biased, then you brought it upon yourself.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:55 PM
The only way to be impersonated on these forums is to find out the password of the person your impersonating, and unless you picked something like "password" as your password, this likely wouldn't happen. I'm surprised no one's figured out my password honestly...it's pretty simple (no I will not be giving hints...I use this password for litterally almost everything for the last 7 years). As far as contacting Vampz, he said you'd been emailing him. I'd say that was talking to him personally. As for the mods at TKZ hating you, I can assure you I do not hate you (or you would be banned here and the chat room as well). I'm pretty sure most of the mods at TKZ don't hate you either. One admin even said he didn't completely agree with Vampz (no, I won't name names). It comes down to the fact that it "is" Vampz site, and he does have complete control over it, and basically it was his decision on whether or not to ban you. As for Asimir, I trust him quite a bit as far as whether or not to tell the truth. He doesn't seem like one to play jokes like that. As I said earlier, banning is serious, and should be taken seriously, from both those being accused, and those that are doing the accusing.

It takes no brains to impersonate. It is an act of stupidity, and treated as such.
right, but then he would also of banned me earlier.... Do you know when my ban will be lifted?
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Post by: Haraldur on April 27, 2004, 02:36:44 PM
How can you be so sure it will?
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:10 PM
KSNiloc, I've found your accusation to be false. Xoralk's last deleted post was on April 9th, and as he's the only moderator for his forum, he's the only one that can delete posts there (other than the rest of the admin). There were no posts even started by Word2 that I could see between 4/25 and today, and I "can" look at deleted posts. Your warning level has been increased. I suggest you do not repeat your mistake.

Word2, I'm appologize for KSNiloc's action, and I hope it won't happen again.

How's that for a fair trial  Razz
PERFECT! Thatnks spyder, now If Vampz implyed that.... Oh, and last I rember there was no rule in Vampz TK zone, saying that you can't impersonate ppl. No I am not saying I did it, Im saying, just like KSN impersonated the post, some one could have impersonated Vampz, and not be me. Not to mention, had you been able to look at IP addresses from the chat then the banning mishap wouldn't have happened. also If Vampz was there to see it, I could understand it better.
BAD KSN. You see spyder, ppl try to get me banned all the time, thus the chat.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: Haraldur,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:36 PM
How can you be so sure it will?
Dan said it was temporary, but didn't tell me when it would end, somthing about the most being 8 weeks, or somthing of the sort.
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Post by: Asimir on April 27, 2004, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Word2-guest,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 7:28 PM
see? =D


(This is Spyder)
Spyder is an impersonator!

Ban him!
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Post by: Haraldur on April 27, 2004, 03:04:05 PM
Hahaha! Well timed.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:10 PM
KSNiloc, I've found your accusation to be false. Xoralk's last deleted post was on April 9th, and as he's the only moderator for his forum, he's the only one that can delete posts there (other than the rest of the admin). There were no posts even started by Word2 that I could see between 4/25 and today, and I "can" look at deleted posts. Your warning level has been increased. I suggest you do not repeat your mistake.

Word2, I'm appologize for KSNiloc's action, and I hope it won't happen again.

How's that for a fair trial  Razz
It was at Xorlak's message board!!!

http://darkage.mysticsoftware.net/message.php (http://http://darkage.mysticsoftware.net/message.php)

Just you wait. Xorlak's the only person who can delete messages there.

Me... lie? Bah...
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 03:40:39 PM
That was KSNiloc.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 03:41:46 PM
My warning level!? GAHHHH!!!!!! Do not do this to me... I really am not lying... Oh... you... grr...
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 04:15:41 PM
MOTD, where did you go!?!?!?!?? You saw it too... come on, people!!
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 04:20:52 PM
Quote from: Word2,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:39 PM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:10 PM
KSNiloc, I've found your accusation to be false. Xoralk's last deleted post was on April 9th, and as he's the only moderator for his forum, he's the only one that can delete posts there (other than the rest of the admin). There were no posts even started by Word2 that I could see between 4/25 and today, and I "can" look at deleted posts. Your warning level has been increased. I suggest you do not repeat your mistake.

Word2, I'm appologize for KSNiloc's action, and I hope it won't happen again.

How's that for a fair trial  Razz
PERFECT! Thatnks spyder, now If Vampz implyed that.... Oh, and last I rember there was no rule in Vampz TK zone, saying that you can't impersonate ppl. No I am not saying I did it, Im saying, just like KSN impersonated the post, some one could have impersonated Vampz, and not be me. Not to mention, had you been able to look at IP addresses from the chat then the banning mishap wouldn't have happened. also If Vampz was there to see it, I could understand it better.
BAD KSN. You see spyder, ppl try to get me banned all the time, thus the chat.
Who do you think you are?

Where is Xorlak!!?!?!?
He must have recorded the IP!!

I've been falsely accused so many times in my miserable life to have it happen again.

Fact: The post did happen

Whether or did Word2 did it is a different story. It *was* posted! Where is Xorlak?
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Post by: Anonymous on April 27, 2004, 04:30:46 PM
New info, people.

Check out "*very Important Information".
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Post by: Vampz on April 27, 2004, 04:32:51 PM
For the record, Word2 is no longer banned at TKZ.

But we now have official rules down on a webpage, so he knows how to tread from now onwards.
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Post by: Dude Man on April 27, 2004, 05:35:29 PM
What's going on! Rivalry hatetread! This is the seconed time I remember...when I re-joined the comuinity there was a big battle going on....rather not get into that. Well anyways, I'm a bit confused right now, was KSN Banned? Really what I'm saying is WHAT'S GOING ON!?!?!?
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on April 27, 2004, 07:33:55 PM
I saw Word2's post on Xorlak's forum. However, it could have been an impersonation...I wouldn't know.
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Post by: Colin on April 27, 2004, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: Mark of the Dragon,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:33 PM
I saw Word2's post on Xorlak's forum. However, it could have been an impersonation...I wouldn't know.
Exactly... probably the same fiend in my other post.

I want action.

I want that darn warning gone.
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Post by: Marc on April 27, 2004, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: Vampz,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:32 PM
For the record, Word2 is no longer banned at TKZ.

But we now have official rules down on a webpage, so he knows how to tread from now onwards.
that will be better, as now there is a rule saying no impersonating, maybe then you will catch Rhodes, or who ever in the action.
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Post by: Xorlak on April 27, 2004, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: Spyder,Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:10 PM
KSNiloc, I've found your accusation to be false. Xoralk's last deleted post was on April 9th, and as he's the only moderator for his forum, he's the only one that can delete posts there (other than the rest of the admin). There were no posts even started by Word2 that I could see between 4/25 and today, and I "can" look at deleted posts. Your warning level has been increased. I suggest you do not repeat your mistake.

Word2, I'm appologize for KSNiloc's action, and I hope it won't happen again.

How's that for a fair trial  Razz
To clarify, yes the incident did occur on my threaded forum, which is separate from my forum here.  KSNiloc is telling the truth.

However, I didn't bother looking at the IP before I deleted the post.  So I can't confirm whether it was actually Word2 or not.

KSNiloc (and everyone else) -- Please PM the admin staff if you feel someone should be banned.  Posting a topic that everyone can comment on gives the spammer exactly what he/she wants.
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Post by: Spyder on April 27, 2004, 09:47:43 PM
Hmm, ok, that would explain why no post was deleted here. KSNiloc and Word 2, I apologize. The situation wasn't explained very well apparently. KSNiloc, please only ask me to ban people that have done wrong in "this" individual community. What they do in other communities is the responsibility of other admin groups to take care of. Xorlak removed the warning from KSNiloc.
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Post by: Anonymous on April 28, 2004, 11:35:26 AM
Well it's done now but wouldn't you be able to ban people from of of MS' sub-domains too.

I'm very delusional but it's just more fun when the whole community's involved (heh...).
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Post by: Cesque on April 28, 2004, 11:45:43 AM
Self-rightousness? Linch? Lol.
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Post by: Spyder on April 28, 2004, 11:50:46 AM
Quote from: KSNiloc*,Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:35 AM
Well it's done now but wouldn't you be able to ban people from of of MS' sub-domains too.
I'd imagine I could ban his IP from mysticsoftware.net period, but Xorlak's website is not actually part of Mystic Software, and his threaded forum is not part of these forums, and I have no control over them.
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Post by: Dude Man on April 28, 2004, 02:23:57 PM
So is somebody gonna get killed...err....banned? Hope not...hope it isn't me...Have I done anything bann worthy? Wait this isn't about me...but still.... :unsure:
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on April 28, 2004, 04:38:46 PM
If Xorlak has a forum like that, he is master of it.  Just because it was posted there does not mean that it affects the actions done HERE.  Xorlak's forum there is a SEPARATE entity from the MS Forums.  Spyder is just in raising your warning.  This decision is final, discussion is over.
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on April 28, 2004, 04:53:04 PM
No, nobody is going to get banned.  What goes on at other forums (other than those hosted through this software) is of no concern to us.
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Post by: Spyder on April 28, 2004, 09:27:27 PM
No, KSNiloc's warning was taken away because Xorlak confirmed that a post was made on his threaded forums. This doesn't mean that KSNiloc was correct in assuming it actually "was" Word2, but it doesn't mean it wasn't either. As there is no way to tell, nothing happens to either of them, especially because it didn't happen on this forum.