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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 16, 2003, 11:47:09 PM
Alright, I'm trying to get something similar to Sabin's Blitz Command in FF6, but I want a visual timer displayed so that the gamer knows how much time he has left. Anyway, here's the timer code:

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#Method Timer()
{
#For(timeleft!=10,timeleft!>=0,timeleft!-1)
{
  #FontSize(24)
  #CastLit(timeleft!,timeleft$)
                                #ColorRGB(255,0,0)
  #timeimage$=timeleft$ + ".bmp"
  #SetImage(timeimage$,338,483,104,65)
  #Get(key[keyx!]$)
  #If(key[keyx!]$~="")
  {
   #keyx!=keyx!+1
  }
  #Delay(1)
}
}

I haven't been able to test this yet, so I'm not sure if it will work or not. If anyone can help me determine if this code will work or can help make it work if it doesn't, please reply with your tips. Thanks. Oh, and you'll get a spot in the special thanks section of my game's credits (If I remember)
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 08:02:23 AM
What is the command supposed to do? I haven't played FF6...
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 18, 2003, 10:21:51 AM
Download Final Fantasy 6 and an emulator and play it!

Emulator - http://www.zsnes.com (http://http://www.zsnes.com)

Game - http://www.edgeemu.com (http://http://www.edgeemu.com)

*On Edge Emulation, click "Roms" on the right-hand side of the screen. In the EdgeLoad popup, click advanced search. Then, in the bottom text box, type in "Final Fantasy", and set the java pop-down menu to "Super Nintendo Entertainment System." In the results, look for Final Fantasy III (U) (yes, I said III...that's cause the american version WAS ff3 until FF Anthology came out) *
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Post by: Cuzit on August 18, 2003, 06:03:39 PM
Do you mean you can download FFIII, or just little scinemas?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2003, 10:09:02 PM
No, You download the game

ILLEGAL, under United States Federal Law, and any countries whom are contained within the World Trade Oraganization.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 09:01:46 AM
Sorry, against emulation and such. Can't you just tell us?

Oh, and I'm new here. Hello.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 19, 2003, 10:40:08 AM
Alright, basically when you select blitz, you have to enter certain button combinations within a set time limit. Then, if the key combination, Sabin will perform the corresponding attack. Sort of like special moves in a fighting game.

And if Emulation was illegal, then why are there so many rom sites with domain names that HAVEN'T been shut down? And why hasn't ZSNES been shut down?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2003, 12:14:18 PM
Emulation itself is not illegal, however ROM files are. It's nothing but pure theft in my opinion. But that's not what where going to discuss here, right? Anyway, about your code.
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#Method Timer()
{
#For(timeleft!=10,timeleft!>=0,timeleft!+1)

I'm not too familiar with the #For command, but if I'm not wrong, this one will go on and on forever, beacuse it will never become less than 0, beacuse you add 1 to timeleft! everytime. It should be minus instead of plus.

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{
 #FontSize(24)

You know, I can't see anything in your code that's affected by #fontsize. Of course you may need it later, so just leave that one if you want.

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#CastLit(timeleft!,timeleft$)
                               #ColorRGB(255,0,0)

 #timeimage$=timeleft$ + ".bmp"
 #SetImage(timeimage$,338,483,104,65)

No problem here, as far as I can see. Oh, wait, #Colorrgb, I don't think that affects anything in this method. Maybe it's the same case as with #Fontsize. Do what you want with it.

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#Get(key[keyx!]$)

I think you must manually make Keyx! zero or one or something before running this command the first time. Or you could do it at the end of the program.

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#If(key[keyx!]$~="nothing")

I take that as you want to check if the player hasn't pushed any button at all. In that case, I think it should be "" instead of "nothing".

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{
  #keyx!=keyx!+1
 }
 #Delay(1)
}
}


I think this will work, but the player will have to hold the buttons down, and they may not push more than one button every second. However, they will be able to push LESS than one button every second. But that's what you want, isn't it?


Those are the only problems I could find, but I'm no expert.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 19, 2003, 04:38:45 PM
Well.....
Man that tees me off! I could've downloaded it of the internet instead of spending forever to find it and spent $40.00 on it.....
Oh, isn't Blitz like Zell's Limit Break in FF8?
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 19, 2003, 10:02:11 PM
Yeah, it's pretty similar.
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Post by: The end on August 20, 2003, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: Mark of the Dragon,Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:40 AM
And if Emulation was illegal, then why are there so many rom sites with domain names that HAVEN'T been shut down? And why hasn't ZSNES been shut down?
MANY rom sites HAS been shutdown, like plasticman Sad. However, many ROM and Warez sites alike usually has something in their disclaimer that makes it impossible for a human being to enter, like that you have to be 200 + years old to enter.

Emulation is as legal as it can be.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 20, 2003, 01:22:46 PM
Edge Emulaion has yet to be shut down, and Emusanet is still kicking, but they are rebuilding their site. Also, Edge Emulation has NO disclaimer whatsoever. I think that some sites were shut down because they had Playstation ISOs and N64 roms on them.
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Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2003, 03:18:25 PM
No... If they were shut down, then they would have had to infringe on the rights of a video game.

The only way that this can be done, is if you are putting a site up with IDSA (Interactive Digital Software Association) Protected roms. This includes ALL Sony playstation games, weather they have it down or not, that is why Sony is notorious for their lawsuits. As for N64, well most of their games are IDSA Protected, but only major Genesis, SNES, or NES games were actually IDSA Protected, I attribute it to the lack of communication (ie. noone really had computers or anything until the 90's)

Even though, most countries now have laws that include this line:

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It is hereby forbidden to have any material not originally intended for the source machine, to be found on another machine.


Which in laymans terms is

A computer isn't supposed to have stuff that isn't intended for the computer (ala ROMS). Oh and that bull that most sites give you about 24 hours... heh that's crap. You could have it on there for an hour and it's still breaking the law.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 20, 2003, 07:46:24 PM
Well, EdgeEmu's been up for years, and they have almost every Genesis, SNES, NES, and Arcade roms known to man.
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Post by: Tosoto on August 20, 2003, 11:10:58 PM
I have about 150 SNES games and over 600 NES games
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Post by: The end on August 21, 2003, 12:34:24 AM
Quote from: Burrow85,Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:18 PM
Oh and that bull that most sites give you about 24 hours... heh that's crap. You could have it on there for an hour and it's still breaking the law.
That's why less and less insist on putting that in their disclaimer (if they have one), they usually put up an inhuman age limit...
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 21, 2003, 12:23:04 PM
Look, if it wasn't for emulation *cough*roms*cough*, then we wouldn't have all of those Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy sprites for use in our games! Also, 8-bit theater wouldn't exist as it would be impossible to get sprites by any other means than emulation. So why are you so against it, Burrow85?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2003, 03:37:11 PM
First off, I'm not against emulation.. I use emulation to get screenshots of games for a review, etc..  What I am against is the downloading of the games from an alternate source and then playing them, simply because you like the game or you never bought the game.

As for sprites, well the simple answer make them yourself. I don't think that the creator of the original sprites would be all to happy, to see their sprites somewhere else, just with perhaps some different colors and some little differences.

Added in, ROMS are just a huge problem to deal with, you get caught with them on your computer/floppies/CDs, and you can recieve not only a HUGE fine, but you can go off to prison for quite a while (depends on the number of em' they find). I had a buddy whos brother went off to to a min. security prison for I think a year and a half and had to pay $1750 fine, just because he had like 50 games on a CD.
If you believe that they can't find you, don't bet on it.

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Many sites actually have a backdoor policy where they must give IP numbers of people whom  download so many 'documents' from their site, to the proper authorities. This includes ROM sites, that's why many are still around, is they allow themselves/site to become bait, and then they don't get in trouble in any way, plus all they have to do is nark on people who download stuff.


That is why I am against it, I know many of the loops and tricks these people employ. Now I'll admit, when I've linked one of my GBA games to the computer, I'm half tempted to upload it to a nice .gba file and play it on my computer any time I wish, but I don't.  It's just not right to do.

There ya go, my reasons behind disliking ROMS, if you want to continue your habits go for it, but I know I won't.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 21, 2003, 05:29:17 PM
i never knew you could do that, and now that I do, I won't. BTW, what happen to MOTD Q about the blitz thing?
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Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2003, 05:44:19 PM
I think it got answered some posts up... don't know though.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 21, 2003, 06:02:04 PM
yeah. Well, this topic is pretty much filled up. To keep it more organized we'd probally better start a new topic!!!
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 21, 2003, 06:45:02 PM
Yeah, go right ahead.
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 22, 2003, 12:51:43 PM
Oh, and Burrow85, I got this off of EdgeEmu's FAQ page:

Isn't emulation illegal?
No; pirating currently selling high-tech un-obsolete video game systems and games is illegal. Sharing the wealth of unused classics is hardly illegal. The IDSA has contacted us before, and we are prepared to take as many steps as necessary to deal and comply with their requests.

So there, Razz
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Post by: Anonymous on August 22, 2003, 01:13:33 PM
Look where you got it from.

Even at any rate,  law holds no footing, if the game isn't protected by IDSA.
The unused classics would fit into that catagory. Most SNES, Genesis, NES games weren't IDSA protected, simply because there was no reason to.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 22, 2003, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Mark of the Dragon,Thursday, August 21, 2003 5:45 PM
Yeah, go right ahead.
Neh.

What would I name it, anyway, something like

"Emulation Crap"

?
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 22, 2003, 08:58:53 PM
Whatever you want, asshole.
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Post by: Cuzit on August 22, 2003, 10:14:19 PM
So you've changed to G's shack, now, huh? Thought you could get away- Well I browse the whole forum! Muha ha ha!