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Post by: Marc on August 03, 2004, 03:52:11 AM
This is a test.
I made my own web browser and I'm testing it right now. Pretty basic though.

*note* Test out pop up built in pop up blocker.
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Post by: Cesque on August 03, 2004, 04:43:47 AM
Wordie... what the hell?

Oh well. Browser? If it'll beat Internet Explorer, put it into download, I'm gonna use it  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Marc on August 03, 2004, 12:49:54 PM
I will, gotta have .Net framework i'm afraid.

So far: built in auto pop up blocker, no history (safe secure) one period cookie handeling (I'll work with that). It's really fast too.
About 20 times faster then IE explorer.  Very Happy
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Post by: Cesque on August 03, 2004, 03:05:45 PM
Sure, no history... You built it for yourself to hide all evidence of the german dungeon porn sites you visit from your parents, didn't you?  Razz
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Post by: Marc on August 03, 2004, 03:35:47 PM
Yeah.
It's really fast. From microsoft I usualy download at 120 KBPS. But now with my browser it's at 480KBPS.
No history, I made it to not store it. Also it has session cookie's. So it auto cleans out after each surf. No pop ups. And generaly 2X faster.
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Post by: Cesque on August 03, 2004, 03:40:07 PM
Hmm... the auto-clearing of cookies can be a bit of problem. You'll have to log in each time you visit sites/forums.

On TKZ they say you just used some microsoft elements...  Razz
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on August 03, 2004, 03:43:09 PM
I'd use it to bypass MSN Browser's limits, lol
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Post by: Marc on August 03, 2004, 08:35:35 PM
Quote from: "Cesque"
Hmm... the auto-clearing of cookies can be a bit of problem. You'll have to log in each time you visit sites/forums.

On TKZ they say you just used some microsoft elements...  Razz

Of course. VisualBasic is made by Microsoft. So you use it's elements. Unless you learn machine code or assembly code your allways using some one's creation.
I fixed the cookie problem ^_^. It does give you pop ups. But only the ones that come with a site. Like EsmartStart has the one that they put on your site.
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Post by: Spyder on August 04, 2004, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: "Word2"
Yeah.
It's really fast. From microsoft I usualy download at 120 KBPS. But now with my browser it's at 480KBPS.
No history, I made it to not store it. Also it has session cookie's. So it auto cleans out after each surf. No pop ups. And generaly 2X faster.

Er..I don't think the type of browser you use has anything to do with how fast you download... I download at the exact same speed, regardless of using IE or Firefox. Not to mention, I'd imagine it would take at least a 5mbit connection to download at even close to 480KB/sec. I don't think residential ADSL goes that high, and that kind of cable connection would cost a lot of money. My ISP's 4Mbit service costs $80/month. I have a 3mbit connection and I download from fast servers like microsoft.com and nvidia.com at around 300kb/sec.
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Post by: Zeros' on August 04, 2004, 02:37:20 PM
You all suck...I download faster then all of you! Fear my...4KB/sec download or lower speed!
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Post by: Marc on August 04, 2004, 05:10:28 PM
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Quote from: "Word2"
Yeah.
It's really fast. From microsoft I usualy download at 120 KBPS. But now with my browser it's at 480KBPS.
No history, I made it to not store it. Also it has session cookie's. So it auto cleans out after each surf. No pop ups. And generaly 2X faster.

Er..I don't think the type of browser you use has anything to do with how fast you download... I download at the exact same speed, regardless of using IE or Firefox. Not to mention, I'd imagine it would take at least a 5mbit connection to download at even close to 480KB/sec. I don't think residential ADSL goes that high, and that kind of cable connection would cost a lot of money. My ISP's 4Mbit service costs $80/month. I have a 3mbit connection and I download from fast servers like microsoft.com and nvidia.com at around 300kb/sec.

Lol, I never said that this was the reason why it was downloading that fast. I just said it for some reason was downloading much faster.
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Post by: Spyder on August 04, 2004, 08:19:46 PM
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Lol, I never said that this was the reason why it was downloading that fast.

Quote from: ""Word2""
But now with my browser it's at 480KBPS.


Man, what's with everyone contradicting themself lately?...
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Post by: Marc on August 05, 2004, 01:00:25 PM
I never said: Because of this browser everything is faster.
I said: With this browser I am downloading faster.

I might have gotten a good connection to microsoft. It could have been that. But people that have tested it out. Say (for instaince master Tamer) said he could normaly DL at 5 KBPS now he's got it at 11.92 KBPS.
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Post by: Spyder on August 05, 2004, 02:33:54 PM
As far as I know, it is not possible to download at 11KB/sec on dial up. I'd do the math, but I don't feel like it. Give me a link to your browser, I will test it out to confirm your results.
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Post by: Zeros' on August 05, 2004, 06:52:48 PM
My friends got to 1mb/sec on a LAN connection that usually downloads at 25KB/sec (Well we had 25KB/sec from DC site) at www.gamespot.com download servers
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Post by: Dude Man on August 07, 2004, 10:38:34 AM
Hey Word2 we are friends, can you teach me how to make a web browser? I want to make one called Interweb Explorer! Razz

And why is everyone so down about Internet Exporer? BE DOWN ABOUT NETSCAPE!!! Down with Netscape!
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Post by: Spyder on August 07, 2004, 02:54:37 PM
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Hey Word2 were friends

:huh:
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Post by: Zyrshnikashnu on August 15, 2004, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: "Spyder"
As far as I know, it is not possible to download at 11KB/sec on dial up. I'd do the math, but I don't feel like it. Give me a link to your browser, I will test it out to confirm your results.

no, it's possible, just insanely rare. i know you can get very high speeds on a secure connection, 'cause i just dled at over 30 kbps today. i've seen more than 11 on a normal connection, though.

then again... i'm using juno, which is insanely slow. my typical dl speed is roughly 2 kbps. die, juno!
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Post by: Spyder on August 15, 2004, 08:39:13 PM
30kbps I know for a fact is impossible on dial up. If your talking about what the screen says for half a second when you start downloading something, that's not really the speed your downloading at. I've seen my browser say I'm downloading at over a 1MB/sec, which is ridiculous on my cable modem.
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Post by: Marc on August 15, 2004, 10:19:06 PM
You guys sorry for not updating for awhile. Afew things I gotta take care of:

Spyder: MT said he was at 11 KBPS with a DL. I can't confirm it being I wasn't there. You can't DL it seperatly seeing how it's part of the Chaos Editor it'self.

Dudeman: Lol man, I'd love to help you one day. But unfortunatly that won't be for a little while.  :wacko: Master Tamer is having me spend time with other things.

Right now I've got it set to a .5 second delay between "Go" button click. And it seems to be refreshing the screen faster then the internet. So I might need to make that a prefrence. As soon as I figure how to write to registry.

I have some time so I think I will play with it for awhile though. Spyder. Zap! Might have left the link and file on his server account that he posted at TKZ(the link).
That'd be the only thing I can think of.

I should add a spell checker to this  Laughing.
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Post by: Dude Man on August 15, 2004, 10:31:04 PM
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Lol man, I'd love to help you one day. But unfortunatly that won't be for a little while.  :wacko: Master Tamer is having me spend time with other things.

Not a problom. I can live without that, for a very long long time. So don't worry at all about it, in fact forget it Very Happy ! I won't mind at all! lol
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on August 15, 2004, 11:32:43 PM
It is possible to download up to 30 KB/sec on dial-up, i've done it to.  Even though one may have a 56k modem, there're limiters installed on them.  Sometimes they buzz out and allow you to actually download faster.  The fastest, legally allowable connection for dial-up as defined by the FCC is 53 kbps, meaning a max downstream of 6.625 kb/sec.  Anything faster is illegal, but not impossible.  Just the same, if one were to remove the limiter in a 33.6 modem, it could probably perform like a 56k.
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Post by: Spyder on August 16, 2004, 11:18:18 AM
How can you download at 30KB/sec on dial up if a 53kbps connection only lets you download at a maximum of 6.625KB/sec? If 30KB/sec is possible on dial up, why do people connect at such damn slow speeds? You should always be able to connect at 53kbps regardless of your phone line quality if that were possible.
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Post by: Marc on August 16, 2004, 02:41:48 PM
And it wouldn't be illegle to download faster then 6.2 kbps. I was using getright once and had 11.83kbps myself.
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Post by: Colin on August 16, 2004, 02:47:54 PM
Okay you guys.

Fact: Word2 did not make a browser.
Fact: The browser you use affect PAGE loading times -- not downloadable files.
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Post by: Marc on August 16, 2004, 07:56:54 PM
fact: you are a Git.
fact: downloads along with pages go fast.
fact: I did make a browser. And no It's not in the copy you Downloaded.(just one for that a temporary one).
Fact: For the rest of the thread I will be ignoring KSNilocs constaint bitching.

Edit: I'm sorry for the sudden burst of anger. But I've had it to the hilt with Niloc. And I don't see how some people can stand his consistaint bitching about things.
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Post by: Dude Man on August 16, 2004, 09:58:50 PM
Nah, he desererved it. It's just the way he said it with the Fact. It makes him sound like a jerk. No offenince to KSNiloc. That was a mean post, but I supose he's still an okay guy. B)
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Post by: Marc on August 16, 2004, 10:20:00 PM
You don't hang around TKZ much do you? Also DudeMan. I might be free when TKZ goes down friday. If MT doesn't have coding that he doesn't know how to do for me. Heh.
So if you want somthing, I can make it to a point. Although you have to have .Net framwork...

Niloc deserves alot of greif. I'm exausting ideas trying to get rid of this aggravation.
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Post by: Colin on August 16, 2004, 11:49:14 PM
You didn't make a fucking browser.

Using the browser control IS NOT making a browser, you moron.
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Post by: Spyder on August 17, 2004, 09:07:23 AM
Although I'm not programmer, from what I've heard of most "custom" browsers, I'm going to have to go with KSN on this one. If you just used some control program from Microsoft, it's not really making your own browser, but basically skinning Internet Explorer. Much like CBM's browser that's built into the TK probably; though with more features.
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Post by: Marc on August 17, 2004, 10:48:36 AM
True I made it with Microsofts controls. How can you not? Most of the "button" draws ect is based on them any way. Although I did not hard code it, but just used a control that made a box for text ect. After that I got the URL From the address Bar and coded the link speed ect by hand.

So if Niloc thinks I'm shitting you. Then have a good time on the toilet.

Speaking of the web browser it comes with. Every popup availiable pops up. With mine most of them stay down. So it's not default.

What have you "heard" from most custom browsers Spyder?
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on August 17, 2004, 12:00:52 PM
Yes, it is illegal to download above 6.2 kb/sec on a dial-up modem, it's difficult to track though.

Spyder, i've explained why it's possible to get some insane speeds on downloads.  There are limiters built into the modem to prevent connections above 53k....sometimes they fail during a connection and download speeds temporarily increase.  I've had it happen with getright for nearly an hour downloading a 20kb/sec.  I even verified it in timing with windows explorer and checking the filesizes.
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Post by: Dude Man on August 17, 2004, 12:03:33 PM
Quote from: "Word2"
You don't hang around TKZ much do you? Also DudeMan. I might be free when TKZ goes down friday. If MT doesn't have coding that he doesn't know how to do for me. Heh.
So if you want somthing, I can make it to a point. Although you have to have .Net framwork...

Niloc deserves alot of greif. I'm exausting ideas trying to get rid of this aggravation.

TKZ is way to active over there for me. And it runs really slow on my computer for some odd reason, It takes me 5 minutes to make a single post, and it's useally not worth it, TKZ should get a fourm like MS, this one is much better.

And I've lost interest in trying to make a web browser, but thanks anyway.
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Post by: Colin on August 17, 2004, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: "Word2"
True I made it with Microsofts controls. How can you not?

You can program the browser, perhaps? Write code to pull the file off the server and parse the HTML tags.

It's quite a bit of work, actually.
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Post by: Marc on August 17, 2004, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: "KSNiloc"
Quote from: "Word2"
True I made it with Microsofts controls. How can you not?

You can program the browser, perhaps? Write code to pull the file off the server and parse the HTML tags.

It's quite a bit of work, actually.

The one I have is under way with it. Just commented out at the moment.
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Post by: Spyder on August 17, 2004, 08:11:58 PM
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TKZ should get a fourm like MS, this one is much better.

They are, actually. That is one of the big things with TKZ6
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Post by: Marc on August 18, 2004, 11:39:02 AM
And the Color scheme is going to make it even better.
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Post by: Spyder on August 18, 2004, 12:15:04 PM
I take it you have a URL to a test page?
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Post by: Marc on August 18, 2004, 01:30:27 PM
Webbrowser: MS and TKZ
otherwise: No.
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Post by: Colin on August 18, 2004, 01:42:33 PM
I don't see a link to anywhere I can download it?
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Post by: Spyder on August 18, 2004, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: "Word2"
Webbrowser: MS and TKZ
otherwise: No.

Er...sorry, thought you were talking about the color scheme of TKZ6
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Post by: Marc on August 18, 2004, 07:34:31 PM
Oh, no. There is no link for that, I wish there was.