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Mystic Software => General Discussion => Topic started by: Spyder on September 05, 2004, 10:27:55 PM

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Post by: Spyder on September 05, 2004, 10:27:55 PM
Serge, who is a writer over at tk_gaming, has written a <a href='http://www.mg.geahost.com/tkg/index.php?id=4&special=2' target='_blank'>damn good preview</a> of what's to come with the release of TK 3.0.4. Make sure you check out all the incredible features it will include.
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Post by: Dude Man on September 05, 2004, 10:50:24 PM
I read it! And I REEEEEEALLLLY want to get TK3.0.4.!  Razz
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Post by: Trent on September 05, 2004, 11:49:53 PM
Ooh. DA looks pretty good in it.
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Post by: Cesque on September 06, 2004, 10:26:45 AM
Doesn't seem bad...

And I heard you can use the old cool interface rather than new, ugly one...

One thing still angers me, the sprites. You have to save every single one as gif or other image file... and generally I'll have to spend time to get used to new animations-as-items/chars.

Quote from: "Review"
"Expect RPGcode in 3.04 to run virtually any tk2 programs without flaw" - KSNiloc


First step to break review's credibility is to quote KSNilok speaking about tk3...
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Post by: Xorlak on September 06, 2004, 12:09:19 PM
Looks good.  That's not the real Dark Age playing though, since there's no way you can get to the last boss with such low leveled characters, and Dr. Science and Gredrat are in inverted character positions (heh...).
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Post by: Cesque on September 06, 2004, 12:17:49 PM
...and according to OC, all tk2 commands work but some just don't do anything and display error message.

Now, who the hell put KSNilok's quote in that rev?!
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Post by: Occasionally Correct on September 06, 2004, 12:41:35 PM
The ones that give errors are deprecated (that's what the errors say). There are either better ways of doing it or replacements for the command(s). Razz
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Post by: Cesque on September 06, 2004, 12:43:42 PM
Well, there should also be option to auto-transfer all older commands into their existing new replacement upon transger.

Yeah, yeah... I want too much. Smile
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Post by: Colin on September 06, 2004, 01:00:32 PM
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Looks good.  That's not the real Dark Age playing though, since there's no way you can get to the last boss with such low leveled characters, and Dr. Science and Gredrat are in inverted character positions (heh...).


You didn't actually expect me to play through the whole game to make a screenshot, did you? Razz
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Post by: Colin on September 06, 2004, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: "Cesque"
Doesn't seem bad...

And I heard you can use the old cool interface rather than new, ugly one...

One thing still angers me, the sprites. You have to save every single one as gif or other image file... and generally I'll have to spend time to get used to new animations-as-items/chars.

Quote from: "Review"
"Expect RPGcode in 3.04 to run virtually any tk2 programs without flaw" - KSNiloc


First step to break review's credibility is to quote KSNilok speaking about tk3...



Note that I said, "virtually" to get around people like you.
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Post by: Xavier on September 06, 2004, 01:06:35 PM
Double post - BAN THE DAEMON CHILD!

Wink
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 06, 2004, 07:28:28 PM
Deprecated commands are supposed to be marked as such, and should still be programmed to work, or point to another command.
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Post by: Dude Man on September 06, 2004, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: "Xorlak"
Looks good.  That's not the real Dark Age playing though, since there's no way you can get to the last boss with such low leveled characters, and Dr. Science and Gredrat are in inverted character positions (heh...).


I wouldn't know that because I can't make it past the final battle in the arena Sad ...

And that bodatious screen shot ruined the whole game for me....kidding....
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Post by: Colin on September 06, 2004, 08:42:51 PM
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Deprecated commands are supposed to be marked as such, and should still be programmed to work, or point to another command.


They are marked as such and most call another command, the only time they don't is when the have no direct equivlent.
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 07, 2004, 12:14:58 AM
In such a case, you leave them in, or make an equivalent.
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Post by: Colin on September 07, 2004, 12:17:01 AM
Quote from: "Michael J. Hill"
In such a case, you leave them in, or make an equivalent.


They have been left in; we know what we're doing.
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Post by: akura davis on September 07, 2004, 09:05:53 AM
You do? Wink
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Post by: Zeros' on September 07, 2004, 04:53:03 PM
Ehh...never know. They might.
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Post by: Cesque on September 08, 2004, 12:52:40 AM
Quote
They have been left in; we know what we're doing.


You're propably the only one who believes it. Should I trust you, or OC, and why? Razz
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Post by: Spyder on September 08, 2004, 04:11:51 AM
If I remember correctly, KSN has done extensive work on the RPGCode systems of TK3, and he probably knows what he's talking about when it comes to that subject Wink
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Post by: Khin on September 08, 2004, 04:16:58 AM
yeah...give him credit for all he did. Smile
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Post by: Cesque on September 08, 2004, 07:22:58 AM
All right... So why the hell weren't the old commands kept in previous tk3 releases? Wink
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Post by: Spyder on September 08, 2004, 09:54:02 AM
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All right... So why the hell weren't the old commands kept in previous tk3 releases?
Quote from: "Occasionally Correct"
There are either better ways of doing it or replacements for the command(s). Razz
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 08, 2004, 04:00:25 PM
From what i've gathered, reading through this, when you use an old, deprecated, command, a warning message pops up.  That's not deprecation.
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Post by: Colin on September 08, 2004, 05:17:53 PM
From what I've gathered you need to be more open minded, and join the mob!

Razz
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 08, 2004, 07:57:22 PM
From what i've gathered, i think i need to slap ya a few times....i'm not italian!  I can't be in the mob.

Anything else?
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Post by: Spyder on September 08, 2004, 09:04:37 PM
come on now kids. We don't want to have to send you two to time out Wink
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Post by: Mark of the Dragon on September 08, 2004, 09:14:03 PM
Omg, 3.04 won't mean much to me...I'll be in the pen and paper stage until 3.06, most likely.
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Post by: Colin on September 08, 2004, 09:33:37 PM
Quote from: "Michael J. Hill"
From what i've gathered, i think i need to slap ya a few times....i'm not italian!  I can't be in the mob.

Anything else?


Look up mob in the dictionary. Wink
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 08, 2004, 10:29:08 PM
I know what a mob is, but you said the mob.  I'm not saying you're doing a poor job with things, nor am i saying you don't know what you're talking about.  What i am saying, not everything is being done as it should be.  But....seeing as i haven't actually used the TK in....over a year i'd say, it shouldn't really concern me all that much.  Sorry for the bickering....but it's a pain to deal with my own personality sometimes.
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Post by: Colin on September 08, 2004, 10:33:57 PM
A meant the mob of people looking forward to TK 3.04. I should bring william here, he'd kill you! Razz
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Post by: Cesque on September 09, 2004, 10:41:52 AM
"The mob"... hmm... even I understood this MJH's way, I guess. Razz
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Post by: Xorlak on September 09, 2004, 10:51:03 AM
Quote from: "Michael J. Hill"
From what i've gathered, reading through this, when you use an old, deprecated, command, a warning message pops up.  That's not deprecation.


(http://http://darkage.mysticsoftware.net/images/debug.jpg)

Heh...
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Post by: Cesque on September 09, 2004, 11:05:45 AM
A mere "Heh..." is not enough in this case.

LOL! Smile
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 09, 2004, 04:28:31 PM
I didn't realize you were calling that a mob....meh....but then again, i've stated another reason not to join it....maybe i'll wait another version release....things aren't to my pallete yet....or perhaps i should get off my arse and start learning more Win32 API
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Post by: Colin on September 09, 2004, 04:47:16 PM
Quote from: "Xorlak"
(http://http://darkage.mysticsoftware.net/images/debug.jpg)

Heh...


Use Redirect() yourself.
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 09, 2004, 08:45:01 PM
i can see if it's just a normal testing message, or it comes up while you're editing, but during the actual run of the game....no
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Post by: Colin on September 09, 2004, 09:33:54 PM
The debug window won't show in the real game, silly.
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Post by: Michael J. Hill on September 10, 2004, 03:29:40 PM
People were making it seem that way.
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Post by: Colin on September 10, 2004, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: "Michael J. Hill"
People were making it seem that way.


"People" haven't used 3.04.
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Post by: Cesque on September 11, 2004, 03:05:33 AM
Do "people" include OC?
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Post by: Xavier on September 11, 2004, 04:52:56 AM
And ZZZ apparently, eh KSNiloc? Wink
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Post by: Colin on September 11, 2004, 10:45:09 AM
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Do "people" include OC?


I don't think OC was aware that the debug box is supressed in a built game.
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Post by: GameCharmer on September 11, 2004, 11:09:16 AM
silence the violence!  ok, enough said from me for now

.........

oooohhhh!!!  Gotta get TK 3.04!

is it out yet?  Or is it me, because I don't see it on the TKZ site.  I've been searching for it, and yes, I did look under official releases, and I still don't see it.  argggggg, I'm a pirate now, argggggg.   I don't be a butt pirate though, lol.   so... ummmm.. where is it?  the TK3.04 that is...
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Post by: Xavier on September 11, 2004, 11:18:17 AM
If it isn't on the official site - it obviously isn't available yet. When it is, it'll be announced a TKZ and no doubt Spyder will announce it at MS too.
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Post by: GameCharmer on September 11, 2004, 06:01:41 PM
awesome, thx!!
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Post by: Xavier on September 11, 2004, 06:06:09 PM
Expect it very, very soon...maybe within a day...who knows.
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Post by: Dude Man on September 11, 2004, 07:40:11 PM
You know! I bet you do know, you just not telling Razz !