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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2005, 01:00:38 PM »
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It's illegal to molest children; not to be a paedophile.
Although he certainly has a point, I just wanted to point out that it is illegal to act on any paedophilic (sp?) thoughts, including having pictures, movies, etc. It's not just the molesting part.
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« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2005, 01:59:57 PM »
Hmm.

 I think KSNiloc is right...

 If only the US were that leniant.
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« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2005, 04:48:35 PM »
I don't think the government should have a say in same sex marriage to be honest. It should be the church's choice. Each individual church.
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2005, 05:37:10 PM »
Except you're neglecting one minor detail: this isn't about religion; it's about civil marriage.

And the <a href='http://www.parl.gc.ca/38/1/parlbus/chambus/house/bills/government/C-38/C-38_1/C-38_cover-E.html' target='_blank'>same-sex marriage bill</a>, to be soon voted on, 'protects' churches:

Quote from: ""Bill C-38""
It is recognized that officials of religious groups are free to refuse to perform marriages that are not in accordance with their religious beliefs.


Really, there are no sound reasons to oppose same-sex marriage.
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2005, 07:32:21 PM »
Well, that doesn't mean they couldn't get married somewhere else. Does it?
 Just because they don't get married in a church...
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2005, 08:27:12 PM »
"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here to day, to join these two people in HOLY matrimony."


[sarcasm]Geez, what a fool, for me to miss that. Anything that has something to do with holy matrimony and takes place in a church, in no way can be about religion.[/sarcasm]
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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2005, 08:32:12 PM »
Well then how can atheists get married?
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2005, 08:40:43 PM »
I don?t know. But marriage is a religious thing, whether you?re religious or not.
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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2005, 09:27:16 PM »
Oh ho ho. I'm sorry to have to tell you this Dude Man: you're wrong. Marriage was not originally a religious institution. The church only got involved during the power-struggle between it and the state. Even if it were?not everyone gets married in churches. Clearly, you have no reason to object to civil marriages? I mean, after all, your church still has the ability to decide whom it weds. It has absolutely no effect on churches. This is where the Christians really lose?nobody is asking for marriage in a church. It's civil marriage, Dude Man.

Don't waste your time arguing for a 'cause' which you know nothing about.
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2005, 10:00:22 PM »
People can get married in theatres, or big open outside areas, and those are not religious.
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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2005, 10:43:39 PM »
People can get married anywhere. All you need is someone with the power vested in them from the state. This is called civil marriage, as I've said five times now.
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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2005, 04:11:31 AM »
Dudeman, that is a quote from a religious wedding ceremony. There are perfectly legal marriages outside of religion that do not include that quote, or any religious references.
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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2005, 07:29:17 AM »
Very well, you have proved your point. -_-
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2005, 12:01:15 PM »
*sigh*

If only other people could also see the same point just as easily as you have  Sad
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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2005, 01:33:21 PM »
Feh... I'd really like to join...

But the 13th's a school day, I believe... Wouldn't work well at all.
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