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[Haraldur]

Greece: Ruled by Turkey for long time.

Egypt: Once controlled by UK. Hug poverty and huge wealth (for very few).

Iraq: End of WW1 becomes protectorate of Uk after being tin Ottoman (Turkish) Empire, practically in British Empire. Sue to Shia majority wanting independance, Sunnis are given power. Iraq gets Sunni royal family. In '50s or '60s revolution against monarchy. Anarchy during which their is some other government, and a young Saddam Hussein al-Tikriti attempts, and fails, to assassinate Iraqi president. Baath party gains power. 1979, Saddam rises to become leader of Baath party and executes all opposition.

Iran: In 1950s USA gets rid of Iranian democratic government and replaces it  with the brutal dictator the Shah. Fundamentalist Muslims overthrow Shah and set up and Muslim government.

Cuba: Dictator Batista. Communist revolution. Fidel Castro becomes president. Bay of Pigs. Cuban Missile Crisis 1962-1963.

Canada: Freindly people, lots of guns, but they do not kill eachother so much as in USA. Actually more guns per person in Canada than USA. 150 people killed by guns a year in Canada, in USA 11,129 (figures from Bowling for Columbine).

Chechnia: Very bad things happen there. It seems that they want independance. So why not give them independance? Reason, Vladimir Putin, a bastard, counts his political career as more important than other people's lives.

There are huge numbers of religious fanatics in USA, so many religious TV channels. In some states you are not allowed to teach evolution, but have to teach that the bible is right in EVERYTHING!

[Cesque]

Forbidding teaching about evolution in some states? Damn, this country is heading backward. Crazy mennonytes.

Religion causes shivers down my spine. Tonight I had a dream where a local priest
openly said he belongs to the Gnostics, dressed up like a giant chicken and taught people about the power of the Gnosis... Hmmm, got worse dreams, trust me.

Nearly every political bastard counts his career as more important than other peoples' lives.

Sunnis suck. Shyites are the ones that have right of rule due to mahometan lineage of Ali which started sunni-shyite conflict.

[Haraldur]

I did not know about that.

Personally I think Iraq should be split up on ethnic lines.

[Cesque]

Yeah, I also didn't know my local priest dresses up like chicken and foretells the power of Gnosis! Who would dare to suspect him?

[Haraldur]

Only the Pope. He meets him every day (except sundays) for the chicken dance.

[Cesque]

Whoa! No! Not the pope too! Soon all of the church will look a like my granma's farm 30 years ago!

Duk, duk! Co-cococo-coco-coooo! The Gnosis comes! Let us dance and feast all night as it's the Chicken's Day! Duk, duk!

[Dont_Think_So]

Actually, I can tell that there are many assumptions being made abotu America.


Forbidding the teaching of evolution: illegal. As is stated in the constitution, there is separation of church and state, and thus public (mind you, public) schools are required by law not to teach religious rights, and some have in fact been sued and jailed for it.




Further, the testing done to all students in America would not meet national standards without the study of evolution.


Oh, and how was Martin Luther King Jr. a bad thing?



As for the racist thing, only in the South of the USA. Anywhere else, being racist will likely get you shunned, or even shot.




Oh, and have you seen (American) football?  The ball has been known to be hard enough to put a nasty bruise into your shin.

[Haraldur]

In the past, some states did forbid the teaching of evolution, in fact one person went to jail for teaching it.

Martin Luther King was not a bad thing. The list was not purely of bad things. The fact that most things were bad just reflects on what the world is like.

Yes, racism does seem to be more intense in the south. However, there is still segregation, of a kind. The kind where most of the white people live in suburbia, and the black people in ghettos in the urban areas. And the fact that the white people in the suburban areas always seem to be afraid of a raging horde of black people entering the suburban areas. If an unexplained crime is committed, then people jump to the conclusion that it was a black man. Was there not a case a few years ago of a woman who killed her kids and claimed that a black man had kidnapped them? And everybody believed her! Also, how many rich black people are there in the USA? Watch "Bowling for Columbine."

Have you ever played or watched Rugby? Besides, what is the point of playing a game where it is imperitive to your safety to wear padding?

Lastly, the list is not all bad, and not all present tense, see my first point in this post.

[Dont_Think_So]

You make some valid points there. I guess it's just where you live...


In California, a person in office was impeached because he said he wanted to cleanse the sate of black people (or something like that).

The reason football requires padding is because the ball is made out of a very tough material, and is awkwardly shaped for more didstance. However, that shape adds a point to each end of the ball, which is the dangerous part.

I donbt particularly have a taste for footbal, and indeed soccer is my favorite sport.


As far as black people go, that's the South. We tried to get them to change (the American civil war; most blood ever shed in a war America was involved in, and it was between itself). The North might have won the war, but the South never really gave up their old way of life, which was to treat black people like dirt. Thus, the black and white are often separated, but mostly in the South.


I'm not sure about the rest of America, but here in California, there is so much variety (the minorities, together, outweigh the majority by a lot) that we are forced to accept people into our community, black, white, hispanic, whatever. That's not to say that that's a bad thing,  though Smile.

Why, two students got suspended the first month of school for writign "K.K.K" on a bench and drawing a swastika in the bathroom.

Oh, and I don't know what statistics you're looking at, but the reason there aren't very many rich black people is because THEY'RE A MINORITY. They make up a lot less of the population than people tend to think (though they are a lot more common than other minorities). And there are rich black people. They simply aren't as common nor as publicised.


And as far as conviction goes, yes, you are correct; blacks are, in the eyes of many, more likely to commit a crime. However, that woman could have blamed anyone and they would have started looking for him/her. Most likely a him, because sexes are a lot more stereo-typed and discriminated than races, though in different ways.

I won't bother to go anymroe into this right now; I have stuff to do Smile.

[Haraldur]

You should still watch Bowling for Columbine Smile That was one of my main sources.

I live in the UK.

You like soccer (known in the rest of the world as football, the great thing is you actually kick the ball)? Good on you!

White in suburbia, black in the city.

Still, the majority of black people in the USA are poor. There is a disproportionally high amount of poor black people.

Bowling for Culumbine= Best film ever.

[Dont_Think_So]

You are right; there are a lot of poor black people. I will agree that that is indeed because of segregation.

The way the system is right now, if blacks are (or believe they are) refused jobs because they are blacks (or white, or hispanic, or female, etc), then they can sue and go to civil court. However, who wants to go through all of that if they're job hunting?

[Haraldur]

Noone would go to that much trouble unless the rewards were high.

Black people in the USA tend to live in certain (poor) areas, with not very good schools, therefore not very good education, therefore not very high prospects, therefore offspring live in same areas, therefore their children go to the same schools etc.

This is made worse in Michigan by the "welfare to work program."

Why is it that the USA has an almost non-existent welfare state?

[Dont_Think_So]

Now THAT I don't know. The way it is right now, those in poverty get free welfare, the rich can afford it, and the middle class is kinda thrown in the gutter.


That's something they should fix. I wrote an essay about changes that should be made to America (that was one of tehm), and I got $25 off of it Razz

[Haraldur]

In Flint, Michigan, a six year old boy killed a six year old girl at school with a gun that he had found at his uncle's house. He was staying there because his mother had been evicted from her house that she rented, the welfare money was not enough. On top of that she was a compelled member of Michigan's "welfare to work" program, meaning that she hardly met her son at all, partly because she had to do two jobs just to make ends meet, and it did not even do that. Perhaps the fact that she was forced by the state not to look after her son that he went to school and shoy a girl in his class.

Did you know that 12% of Americans live below the official poverty line?

In comparison to the rest of the rich world the USA's welfare system is pitiful.

[Cesque]

Hmmm, in Poland the official poverty line is perhaps all those guys sleeping their vodka-sleeps near monopoly shops and still about 30% folks are below that.

We have not much guns in Poland... People refer to knives when problems come.

And we don't have separated church and state, which means God is everywhere and as long as pope is polish, no one would propably do something about that. Not that I'm against, but there isn't much tolerance in it.