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[Dude Man]

Oh I see. So yeah Burton is wrong about being demoted, since Mercury, Venus and Earth will stop being planets by being consumed by the sun, rather then getting blown up by the sun.

[Burton_projects]

after it explodes it then becomes either a white star (dead one) or a black hole so ya....

[D. Ein]

No, the Sun becomes a white dwarf (you were right with the first one). Then, if it were about eight times its size right now, it would become a neutron star. If it were 20 times bigger, then we'd be talking black holes.

[Jenia]

The sun won't just blow up, it will implode on itself, shrinking quickly just before going KABOOOOOOOOOOM.
It can only become smaller that way, and unless it attracts the remains of the planets in the solar system back to itself you can forget about it becoming a black hole.

[Burton_projects]

so we'd freeze first no more sun just a small star then we get abliborated.

[D. Ein]

Jenia: No, not even the combined mass of all planets would make the Sun bigger, big enough to be a black hole. I mean, we're talking 20 suns here, and the Sun right now contains 98% of the solar system's mass.

Burton: No, it would still swell up before exploding. However, we won't be around to see the sun slowly consume our planet - we would already be fried from heat and/or gamma radiation, FAR before the Sun reaches us.

[Burton_projects]

What ever I don't feel like going back 2 years in my memories..

[Jenia]

Jenia: No, not even the combined mass of all planets would make the Sun bigger, big enough to be a black hole. I mean, we're talking 20 suns here, and the Sun right now contains 98% of the solar system's mass.

Obviously you didn't get my point. WHat I'm saying is, if the sun consumes the ENTIRE contents of the soler system, it actualy has a chance to start consuming any passing objects as well as moving itself towards other large objects, which means that eventualy it CAN become a black hole that way.

[AlienDude]

actually with the new model we will not only have Pluto, but that other one past Pluto and Vesta as a planet. so that would make 12 planets. Also the planet has a fer greater chance of blowing than the sun. Well at least with Mr van Flandren's (sp) model

[Cuzit]

I can sum this whole topic up quickly:

We're screwed. Sad

I'm writing a sci-fi novel based off of the time this stuff happens.  Laughing  But I forgot about our elimination before the Sun actually goes kablooey....  I'm rewriting, anyway, I can work around that. Razz

[Dude Man]

Sound interesting.

But there isn't anything we can really do about it, unless we can master space travel and leave our little solar system before it happens. But not everyone would be able to leave.

Sounds a lot like the apocalypse actually. We leave the prisoners (teh bad) to burn in the flames of the sun (teh flames o' hell), as everyone else (teh good) will be spared and find some better planet (teh heaven lol).

That still has so many plot holes and mistakes, however.

[Cuzit]

Yeah, but its fiction, so....

That's if you were referring to my novel. Laughing

It's getting very... sexual.  And I want that in my book, but it was originally a Young Adults (or was going to be one) book....  So I don't know if that will be the target audience anymore.  But most people that aren't scientists probably won't notice, and I could just say it was impossible to scientifically and logically work around, so I just made it fictional. Laughing

If you don't mind, if I ever finish it, read it, and comment. Laughing  It'll probably take me forever to finish, though.  I was working on it for two years, and got two-hundred college ruled pages done, which translates to an estimated one hundred and thirty-or-so pages typed, and now I'm chunking that and doing a rewrite....  I'm writing the [insert name here (I forgot what it's called, you know the... outline, that's it)] right now, and I'm still very little into the first chapter, at three college-ruled pages....  So....  It's going to take forever. Sad

I'm working on it. Laughing

Woah, that was off topic....

[D. Ein]

I never had enough patience to go through with a book, nor will I ever get any. The longest piece of fiction I've ever written was an 8-page short story...