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[DarkElite]

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[Cesque]

Hmm, I'm happy with my religion, or, better, current religious system for myself. It absolutely lacks discipline, organisation, church, control and is very liberative.

I just believe in God, base on Bible sometimes, the System, propably afterlife, and doing good deeds to wash out bad deeds and pay for sins.

I can't say I believe God is happy with me, but there are worse people than me.

I never actually ceased to believe in God. I simply hated him sometimes. WIth my thoughts I cursed his name, and propably I was right at some point. God is not good, God is just, and just beyond my understanding...

Nah, I'm falling into mysticism with my religion-less worship...

[DarkElite]

heh...kindof diffrent religion, but ok, it works ... i guess. At least you believe there is one cough*haraldur*cough....sorry, anyways, i guess one would find it esier to believe in his own, personal religion, and harder for those who believe in one that they did not create, but what the picture that i saw says explains it.

It said, "I didnt say it would be easy, only that it would be worth it."

[Cesque]

Hmm, I believe what is written in the Bible. Somehow. So it's not my very own designed faith, where I say: "Hey, let's make god called Iron Serpent because it sounds cool, and worship it", like Nebuchednessar did.

[Haraldur]

The only thing I can believe in is myself, because if this is all a dream then there is still a me dreaming it.

[Cesque]

Interesting conception... And yeah, true, you're right and I get what you mean.

Heard of something like it before, there was a man who worked on dream-connected things like lucid dreams and mind activity. He believed (through it seems mad to me), that just like in dreams we have natural instincts, for example, not too jump into the pit through beside waking up nothing will happen, the same way in reality death is nothing to fear, as we will simply 'wake up'. Anyone courageous enough to try that?  B)

[Haraldur]

No, I am a coward. I base this on the conundrum of multiple awakenings.

[DarkElite]

strange idea, but im not trying it! Ive been motivated (although i donot know how) by Cesque to create my own religion. Although it wont be any Budist crap (srry to anyone who is, just my opinion [or my fact  Very Happy ]).....i will call it....Hinduism! heh  Laughing .....hmm....it will be......Antiathism!

[Cesque]

Hmm, I dislike buddhism, but perhaps only because I dislike anything which has growing popularity and you can read about it on every step.

What's this whole 'antiathism' you talk about?

[Haraldur]

If you hate things with growing popularity then you must hate Christianity, as the number of Christians as a percentage of the world population is increasing.

I think I might start my own religion, but It will have slightly different morals from others: I do not care about other people having sex, it is their own affair.

[DarkElite]

antiathism is like a new (made by me, not some wak  Laughing ) christain type religion, it has most of the same believes, but some diffrent thinking in it.

some of the major differences are:

most christians are against the idea of evolution, in antiathism, it is an open idea, and is posible, even with all of what the bible say put into thought.

another is that i dont believe God created all things, in the bible it says that he can do no evil. So if he were to create evil itself, that would be evil. So i think that God created good (man and angels and stuff) and one angel (lucifer) used that good for evil ,which then created sin. And was thrown to hell for doing it, then Satan tempted the humans to sin, causing the power of it to grow.

also, i believe that the holy spirit seals one into heaven, and the only way that person could goto hell, was if he came to his own destruction (not suicide, but coming to the dark)

[Haraldur]

Interesting, less wacked out than most Christian sects.

[Cesque]

Heh, christianity considers all evangelic churchs heretic...

But, what's the difference between heresy and dogma? Dogma was agreed with by the papacy.

Christianity isn't against evolution now, but 100 years ago, they have burned Darwin's books, which only adds more chaos to the whole religion.

Yeah, christniaty is all around - but I'm used to it. Same way I would have to hate oxygen, because it's all around, and people breath it. I'm not used to buddhism, which I consider good, but changed by medias and people into a "popular new trend".

Hmmm... Good conception, Dark Elite. You should read Book of Enoch (it says about most things which aren't said in the people, the origin of Lucipher, why really the God caused the global flood, etc)

I prefer St Thomas' way of thinking, everything God created is good - so evil is just turning against God and what he created...

Hmmm, I have troubles believing in Holy Spirit at all, I just know it's a spiritual form of God, same way demons can "possess" people, holy spirit can "unpossess" them from sin etc.

As for the whole concept, I also recommend "Name of Rose" book by Umberto Eco, I have just finished reading. In the end, there is a good concept by Wilhelm de Baskerville (main hero of the book), as what the DEVIL is - and that the devil must not necessarily come from evil, it can come from fanatical worship and defense of God, too... (the movie was good, but it was more "for the public", while the book shown the bare truth without the moral that "good always wins" etc, for example, the beloved girl of Adso died, as well as the abbot, and the "evil" inquisitor survived)

[Haraldur]

So the universe which is a figment of my imagination is not all insane, good, I was wondering about my mental health.

[DarkElite]

Enoch isnt in my bible (wonder why?  :rolleyes: ) so many things were left out to make people not see the true anger of God, not to say thats a bad thing to do. I think it was smart, beace of it, so many more have been saved. But Enoch i guess reveals all of that... where can i find it?