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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2004, 04:33:02 PM »
Hehe. I like irony.

However, I think it is best not to prolong things like this. Very Happy
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2004, 06:13:39 PM »
Nobody should be banned I think you should all just live with each other or ignore each other or something else! Just stop being mean to each other! It mean to be mean!

P.S. I am (the not so famous) Galaton but with a new e-mail and SN.

P.P.S I'm not a hippe! I just don't like people hateing each other!
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2004, 06:15:00 PM »
Nightstalker gonna get his neck snapped if i ever see him face to face.
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Yeah...that sounds like me <_<

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You were born in the land of Warrior Pride. You live to fight, you have a strong spirit, courage and bravery. Strong lord! Unsheath thy sword, rush into war and strip the enemy of his flesh down to the core.


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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2004, 06:27:31 PM »
Ooo...Somebody sounds mad. Oops I hope your not mad at me now...I didn't mean anything out of that. Please don't kill me...*hides onder a table*
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2004, 07:08:08 PM »
Don't worry. You haven't pissed me off yet.
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Yeah...that sounds like me <_<

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You were born in the land of Warrior Pride. You live to fight, you have a strong spirit, courage and bravery. Strong lord! Unsheath thy sword, rush into war and strip the enemy of his flesh down to the core.


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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2004, 08:56:13 AM »
everyone should just chill!!

MotD           - whats so wrong with posting a lot?
Cesque        - do you enjoy cursing people out?
Haraldur       - nothing wrong here
Night Staker - i agree with the posting freak thing
Xorlak          - never anything wrong
Dark Elite     - hmm....
Dude Man     - why would we think your a hippe because of that?
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2004, 08:57:40 AM »
i know why some here is so evil...its because a lot of them are athiatic!
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2004, 10:00:03 AM »
I'm still here, I just don't see alot of topics i'm intersted in posting in.

Mark, what possessed you to make this topic? Stop thinking with your dick and think about things before doing it

What I don't like is how Cesque and Haraldur revived topics that were more than 2 weeks old. That was just stupid
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2004, 12:10:02 PM »
I just got pissed off when I read the topic where MotD was talking at asians and trigunasha was racist. I got really pissed off.
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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2004, 12:28:04 PM »
Hmm, what do you mean by athatic? Atheistic or what?

Hmmm, faith - and fanaticism - isn't that good, either. Charlemagne drowned people with millstones straight after baptism, so they died like catholics, during wars with pagans. Crusaders have been known for torturing, raping, plundering and mass murder in Jerusalem. When they faced anger, some sources claim they commited canibalism (they ate arabs, because eating christians would be a sin). The Holy Inquisition was arresting and torturing people, usually then burning them in furnaces, which were later changed into stakes because these were cheaper...

Just letting you know faith was changing over ages, now we're in "Jesus loves you" era, previously people had "Jesus hates those who don't believe" or "Jesus promises you heaven if you'll kill a pagan."

As for people...

MotD - Yeah... What's wrong?
Cesque - No, I don't.
Haraldur - Yeah, nothing wrong.
Night Stalker - I hev nothing against dis guy...
Xorlak - Right.
Dark Eite - Indeed.
Dude Men - Tough life, nowadays. When you're bold, you're considered skinhead, when you're dressed in black, you're considered death metal lover (or a priest), same way talking about peace makes you a hippie...
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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2004, 12:31:09 PM »
I hate fanatisism of all kinds, Christian, Muslim, anything.
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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2004, 12:43:22 PM »
Fanaticism is still present... The old ladies gathered around churches to pray for those who sinned etc - this is how christian fanaticism looks like today. If the Church would not ask for praying for sinners, but rather going around streets and killing them, those poor ladies would do that, too, propably. Or maybe they wouldn't. Others would. Most likely, some murders and bandits.

There already was such thing in history - peoples' crusade, led by some hermit (it was directly before 2nd crusade, I believe), which was going toward Jerusalem, burning, murdering and raping any town on it's way in name of God. Most members of this so-called-holy organisation were hermits, lone knights, bandits seeking asylum or peasants seeking freedom. The Church itself was quite impressed what idiots are these and did not support them... That wouldn't help them anyway. When they got a bit closer toward muslim lands, Turks have attack, massacred and murdered all members of the peoples' crusade, which were absolutely unpreppared to face real enemy, trapped, and outnumbered. Thank God.

Hmm, Haraldur, you're an atheist, but look at it this way. You have a God. Your God is supreme, he made this world, we are all his puppets and by his will we can be redeemed or damned. Now this God wants something from you. Wouldn't you, for heavens sake, do what he wants? I would. But I'm not ensured Church still has something from God in it, beside fundaments.
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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2004, 01:59:08 PM »
The only possible God would be me, and I am not God. I believe the good(?) that the belief in God produced will not be repeated, belief in him is now almost useless in rich countries, as his origional purpose was to make people with bad lives believe there was something good for them after all. In rich countries people do not need to know they will have a good life, they already have one. He, in my opinion, does not exist and has never existed, except in the imagination of people.

It is startling how much more pious people get in bad situations.
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« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2004, 02:28:09 PM »
Not exactly... This was Marx' doctrine, that God is "opium" for common folk...

Actually, many rich people believe in God, and many people get rich by believing in God. Whole Church, for example. Also, most people lose their piety in bad situation. Many priests and pastors could not work longer, because after death of someone from family they lost their faith in God's justice...

Hmm, I somehow believed some time ago that the whole 'God' process works like this: Gods creates people, people create their own God.

I don't like to repeat myself in life, so I'll put some quotes from a story I once wrote, "Doom Legacy", on which I somehow wanted to base "Fall from Grace" game, it told a story of a specific, easily understandable world which fell prey to creatures dwelling in it...

 THE BEGINNING
At the beginning, the Sculptor made the clay. And from that clay, he
createn has all the world and every Creature alive. [...]

[...]

 THE NEW AGE
And so, a New Age began. And the culture, that was once vanquished,
now raised again and the Creatures once again to power called.
But among them, there was the One. And One, that was chosen, said:
We cannot fight each other, nor control the power! The Sculptor only
has the power to do so, and so we must create a Temple to thank
Sculptor for what he done! And so, Creatures have createn a Temple,
in which the built a monument o a Sculptor. And on the top of that
Temple, the built a Curtain again, to prevent Temple of destruction
by Apollion. And then, the One said: Why our power muyst belong to us?
Let Sculptor rule us, for he is the wisest one!

[...]

 THE SECOND ONE
And the third One was chosen because the old One died. And the new One
said: Have the Sculptor said we can't battle? There are other Creatures
that live not within a Temple, and they are doomed because they
are not friends of Sculptor and Curtain does not protect them, we must
destroy them because they are Evil! And so, he createn Evil.
First
thing it was, what was called Evil, and what was Evil in itself,
and so he chosen Evil and he called it Evil, because Evil it was,
in his tought. But then, a Scultptor felt his Creatures are going
wrong way, and so came onto earth and said: Stop! You are Evil, the One
said, and you are a daemon! You are an illusion created to destroy our
Temple! You are the mirage to change Good into Evil! You shall be
doom of us all! But the Scultptor said: I am the Sculptor! And there
is no creation beyond mine! And you have no right to create Evil
without my will! And change my will, you have yours own! And the One
said: Liar! There is only one Sculptor, we must pray to and thank
him, because he createn us! And Evil you are, and begone! And then,
all the Creatures that haven't Sculptor knew, found he was a Sculptor,
and the Creatures that listed to the third One where in error, and
they thought it is a daemon and Evil. And so, a chaos appeared, and
the Sculptor said: Is this your prayer, o One? The will of yours
you place before the will of many and me? Then be damned!

[...]

(I've put my favourite lines in bold, about the true origin of Evil)

Yeah, it contains lots of ortographic mistakes (it was even prior to my later 'bible', Song of Azrael), but there is still some sense in it.

In case you don't get some parts, the Apollion is a powerful globe of energy, like sun, energy which has power to give life and to take it. Creatures have created the Machine, which prevented Apollion's lethal energy, but later the Machine had an error and prevented the vital energy, and to prevent their deaths, creatures have created Curtain atop the Temple which shielded them. (at least this is how I remember it)
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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2004, 02:33:42 PM »
Wow. However, most people who believe in God would have been brought up that way. Most new conversions to Christianity are in the poorest and most war-ridden areas of Africa, poor people suffering hardship are most likely to start believing in God.
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