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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2004, 11:45:46 AM »
Okay. So proven fact, RM is not as good as TK. It will always be 2nd best. Razz

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2004, 02:25:46 PM »
Heh.

Still, RM2k isn't half as bad as a lot of people say it is.

As for the database tab system...I'm serious. That is it's biggest edge over the TK.
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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2004, 02:27:11 PM »
Yeah, and I'm gonna try and run Laxius Power again. If it doesn't work, then it will be MORE proof that TK is better.
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2004, 06:31:43 PM »
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Heh.

Still, RM2k isn't half as bad as a lot of people say it is.

As for the database tab system...I'm serious. That is it's biggest edge over the TK.

You say it's not half as bad as we say it is, but it's not nearly half as good as most people make it out to be. We don't make fun of it because we think it's a horrible program. We make fun of it because there are thousands of people out there that claim it to be the best thing ever made. Despite it's flaws, the TK has always been and always will be a more advanced program, and now that we have out own little team of programmers, it should advance far beyond what RPGMaker will ever aspire to be, and be stable as well.

Databases for the TK have been discussed before I think; possibly by CBM, possibly by the programming team, maybe a little of both. I'm sure if it hasn't been taken into consideration, it will be. I personally don't see it as the biggest edge over the TK though. Most people use RPGMaker over the TK because it's stable, runs smooth, and comes with an excellent set of default media files like chipsets and background music. There are already people working on the stability and smoothness of the engine, and the Reeves have given a good variety of music. Now we just need someone willing to donate the graphics.
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2004, 06:44:09 PM »
I cannot remember, but I think Khin mentioned something about doing the default graphics, or a default game, for the TK. That was months ago though. If all else fails, someone could call on Sophia to do them, and maybe help with the production of the game...

OK, I will stop getting carried away.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2004, 07:52:57 PM »
Heh most people use RM because the defeault graphic's and MIDI's are better then TK's but even more people rip the stuff and use it on TK Razz !
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2004, 06:11:41 PM »
I went out and got RPGMaker2003 after reading this.  I have a few comparisons:

1) The rm2K3 has a very nice look to the program, and there are a lot of resources for it.  TK is still in developement, so looks come last, and since it's was originally made by one person, it was never advertised and stuff, so less ppl have it, so less resources were made.

2) In the rm2k3, you can only import certain types of files, where as in the TK, you can import almost anything!

3) The rm2k3 uses databases for storing information, the TK uses mass ammounts of separate files.  The databases look good, but you can't sort them, and they are harder to manage...  The TK, on the other hand, is a bit nicer in the snece that u can organize the files as you see fit.

Well, that's my 3-point comparison, lol.  so...  What ya think? Did I do good at all?
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2004, 10:36:35 PM »
If your goal was saying that TK is better then RM then yes!
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« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2004, 06:22:25 PM »
Horizon and Montai are making new default graphics and DarkwinterDreams and The Eternal EoN are making new default music (As they're making those things for the new demo game, so those resources will come as default with the TK)
I don't know when they'll be done. Definately not for TK3.0.4. I don't know about TK3.0.5.
Hopefully they'll be done before TK3.0.6 though Razz
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« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2004, 08:08:34 PM »
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graphics don't make the game

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Neither do features; thanks tosoto Smile


um... dose anyone else see the flaw in this post?
features dont make the game?
yess, they do, if a game had no features it would be a movie Razz
and if a game had bad graphics and no features, then it would be a crapy movie Razz
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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2004, 08:15:42 PM »
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Horizon and Montai are making new default graphics and DarkwinterDreams and The Eternal EoN are making new default music (As they're making those things for the new demo game, so those resources will come as default with the TK)
I don't know when they'll be done. Definately not for TK3.0.4. I don't know about TK3.0.5.
Hopefully they'll be done before TK3.0.6 though Razz

Not with your, mine and OC's Lazy rate. I'm sure we will have it done by TK3.09. If there are that many versions  Laughing .
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2004, 09:09:41 PM »
I don't see why there wouldn't be that many versions. Look at how many TK2 had.

Didn't Montai leave the community?
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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2004, 09:48:24 PM »
Quote from: "dbz fan y2k"
Quote from: "Tosoto"
graphics don't make the game

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Neither do features; thanks tosoto Smile


um... dose anyone else see the flaw in this post?
features dont make the game?
yess, they do, if a game had no features it would be a movie Razz
and if a game had bad graphics and no features, then it would be a crapy movie Razz

I'd beat the person who would make a movie in TK. I Message Windowed, one charactor moveing at a time movie. TK is good for GAMEs and that's all.


But I don't think your totally right there....but I'm to tired and slow minded right now to make a point about it...so somebody else Laughing
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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2004, 10:12:44 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2004, 03:32:50 PM »
Hey Spyder, I could make some default graphics for the TK, heh. Just have CBM email me a list of all the graphics he thinks the next release could use, and I'll gladly make them. Hell, I might even make a new sprite template and some new sample sprites for use with the TK (hell, I could even make a new frickin' demo for TK3, lol).

Actually, no list required. I'll browse through RM2k's resources and get ideas from them (like what kind of character sprites to make, what kind of tiles to make, etc.) Monster sets...give me a while.

Jesus, I'm getting ahead of myself, lol. Somebody IM me on a regular basis to keep me motivated!
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