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[matt72186]

Yeah, I believe that, there are a lot of (Editor: Censored)ed up systems in the world.  So much happens behind the scenes in government that they try to hide from the majority, the mass media only reports what people want to hear, but not what they should hear.

[Spyder]

300 children are dead now, generally because of the old russian anti-terroristic tacting known as "first shoot, then ask".

Except that...the Russians didn't shoot first.... Wink

[Xavier]

Spyder, shhh! Let Cesque get his anti-Russian crap out...he needs to otherwise he might just explode with all that bs inside.

[matt72186]

<sarcasm>And I'm sure America had something to do with it too Smile</sarcasm>

[Spyder]

Didn't you know? Bush is Putin's childhood friend (Tony Blair to). He told Putin to go massacre a school full of kids, and blame it on Chechnian rebels. The dead Chechs that were found at the scene that were said to be "Terrorists" were actually the childrens parents, there for their first day of school.

[Cesque]

Yeah, sure, let's believe "Bush is good and Putin is good and terrorists are children who were beaten up by parents during childhood so they were evil evil evil".

I am not anti-russian: I am amazed that unlike US, they can perform real anti-terrorist actions which bring effects. (Russian politics against Chechenia are another story...)

I am not saying Chechenians didn't shoot first - they were terrorists, after all, and their task was to lure anti-terrorists' attention by most horrid actions, but Russians also didn't look what they were shooting, for most part.

Oh well. Unlike you, I actually try to learn something about the case rather than assuming, "300 children died in terrorist attack, blame it all on terrorists".

Terrorism is one of threats which is not really best eliminated by shooting every noticed terrorist but by understanding terrorists, their motives and where they come from, how they gain followers, etc - and preventing the beasts from being born rather than shooting them when they're already ready to fight.

[Xavier]

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's another Cesque post diving into the bottomless pit of monotony.

[Cesque]

Whatever. You western capitalist freaks are incapable of pure logical thinking.

Amen.

Razz

[Xavier]

Four legs good, two legs bad.

Amen.

[Mark of the Dragon]

Animal farm...right?

[Cesque]

Right. Splendidio.

[Mark of the Dragon]

I've watched both movie versions of the book...one was the (Editor: Censored) animated one.

[Spyder]

Oh well. Unlike you, I actually try to learn something about the case rather than assuming, "300 children died in terrorist attack, blame it all on terrorists".

1.Terrorists hold children hostage in a school for three days, during which they kill multiple children and adults.

2.On the third day a bomb(s) go off, destroying the roof of the gymnasium, killing hundred inside.

3.When the children try to run, the terrorists start shooting them.

Tell me, how is this the fault of the Russian military again?

[Cesque]

Russian mility does not care about hostage life. Their primary target is elimination of terrorists - not safety of children.

The huge number of dead children wasn't actually result of pure terroristic action, but not-well-performed anti-terroristic action. The number could be pretty much minimalised.

From other point of view, AT forces achieved what they wanted to do - fast action of eliminating terrorist threat.

I've watched both movie versions of the book...one was the (Editor: Censored) animated one.

In the latest film one, they changed the ending to a happy one, which totally ruined the movie.

[matt72186]

I never watched either movies, movies for those kind of things are usually lame... they changed it to a happy ending, that sucks, friggin censorship, I swear, it's like Disney.

And I'm not totally against what you're saying this time Cesque, *shocks* although I still don't want to undermine what happened though.  Those terrorists should not have done what they did, I wouldn't even care as much if it weren't for the fact that they targetted children this time.  I'd rather have tons of old guys or something get blown to bits, but when it's little ones who don't even have the chance to live their full lives.

Then again I wonder how much they were looking forward to anyway in the next few years, perhaps it saved them the trouble from the ultimate misery the whole world will probably suffer once things start going real bad.  Especially if Bush is re-elected...