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« on: May 30, 2004, 11:02:40 AM »
All right, im finally going to fight back!  Well, sort of.  You see, my parents have put a password on my computer (its a dell) and i dont know it.  Now i headr that there's a file or something that stores the password and i can access it.

Does any one know a way to find the file, or the password someother way?


(this isnt one of the user passwords, but a start-up password)
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2004, 11:22:19 AM »
It depends on your OS, the software, if any, used to set the password and many other factors.

One workaround is to boot up in safe mode and remove it yourself. TO do this- While the computer is booting up...

Windows 98- Hold CTRL until you get a menu
Other - Pound F8 like a maniac until you get a menu
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2004, 11:24:37 AM »
well, unfortunatly, the idea i have is not to remove the pasoword, because then they'll know that i have done so.

if i try pressing f8 (i have Windows ME) will it boot in safe mode with out the password being asked, but still have the password on if i shut the computer down?
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2004, 02:29:40 PM »
Why did they put a password on your comp in the first place?
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2004, 03:12:29 PM »
Probably because they're grounding him or something...
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2004, 04:51:52 PM »
I'm not sure, but I think DarkElite may be talking about a startup password in the BIOS, which would pretty much prevent him from getting on at all unless he cleared the BIOS with a jumper, but then that would of course erase the password, and his parents would know. If it is in fact just a Windows password, you could boot in safe mode as KSNiloc said, create an additional user/password. That way the old password would still be there, but you use the new one to get around it. Of course this won't work well if your using WinXP and the users are displayed as icons.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2004, 05:02:50 PM »
You can do it with XP too. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del at the welcome screen and it changes to text logon. Also if you boot in Safe Mode in XP you can access a hidden Administrator account from whence you can do what you want.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2004, 05:05:59 PM »
Do you know how to set the password? If you do, then go there and make a new one up.  IF that don't work there is a file, it varys for the computer, in the windows folder. I don't know the etention, just look and see if it's familir.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2004, 06:57:42 PM »
Word2, on 98 there is but not all Windows.
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2004, 08:11:33 PM »
DarkElite said startup password....before the F8.  So yes, it is a BIOS password.  And there is a way to figure it out, from within Windows, if you have the right software.  The only problem is, the computer has to be running.  The only other alternative is what Spyder said, clearing the CMOS with the jumpers, but this will erase the password, as well as the settings in the CMOS.
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2004, 11:17:00 PM »
is there a file i can access without the software?


yeah, MJH is right...i think....it asks for it before it show the loading windows screen with the moving bar at the bottom, but after it loads the dell thing....

grounded...no, they think i spend too much time on the computer...they see it as playing, i see it as learning with fun  Razz
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2004, 11:21:59 PM »
ok...im searching for files n' junk now...

hmm...i have a file named "Start.EXE" and it says its the windows startup program.....think it could have it?
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2004, 06:17:18 AM »
No, as I mentioned earlier, the only way you can do it is by clearing the CMOS. Mike said something about software that will do it....I know nothing of that though. It isn't stored as a file on your hard drive though, it's stored in a chip on your motherboard. Your parents must know something about computers, or know someone who does, to have set the BIOS password. Usually parents wouldn't even know of that feature.

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You can do it with XP too. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del at the welcome screen and it changes to text logon. Also if you boot in Safe Mode in XP you can access a hidden Administrator account from whence you can do what you want.


Yes, but if he created another user, it would display as an icon, which would alert his parents of the new user. If he made the login screen permanently a text login screen, his parents would also know something was up.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2004, 06:20:52 AM »
hmm....well, i find it not that hard.....because it dos say "press F2 to enter menu" on the first screen, and then on the menu, it says stuff about a password..
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2004, 04:25:27 PM »
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Do you know how to set the password? If you do, then go there and make a new one up.  IF that don't work there is a file, it varys for the computer, in the windows folder. I don't know the etention, just look and see if it's familir.

I got winXP, it's there.
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